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[TechSpot] Battlefield V DLSS Tested: Overpromised, Underdelivered

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It gets worse though, and we’ll switch to a different scene for this one. Here is a comparison between DLSS and our 78 percent resolution scale, roughly 1685p, which we found to perform exactly the same as DLSS. It’s a complete non-contest. The 1685p image destroys the DLSS image in terms of sharpness, texture detail, clarity, basically everything.

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Just look at the quality difference between these two areas, when zoomed in. The 78% scaled image preserves the fine detail on the rocks, the sign, the sandbags, the cloth, the gun, everywhere! With DLSS, everything is blurred to the point that this detail is lost. And we’re not talking about a situation where DLSS is noticeably better at anti-aliasing, the 1685p image is already using Battlefield’s TAA implementation which is quite good.
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Right now, DLSS provides much worse image quality than upscaling from a resolution that provides equivalent performance (Nvidia has even acknowledged it's not good right now, though with less straightforward adjectives). For 4K gamers with a 2080 Ti, our upscaled 1685p image looked far better than DLSS, while providing an equivalent performance uplift over native 4K. At 1440p, upscaling from 1210p also looked better than DLSS.
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This is a significantly worse outcome than our initial DLSS investigation. Previously, in an optimal canned benchmark, DLSS looked and performed like an 1800p image. So it provided no benefit. Here, DLSS looks worse than a 1685p image, at the same performance. So enabling DLSS in a real-world game like Battlefield V is actually worse than using simple resolution upscaling that’s been available in games for decades.
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Yea, watched the Hardware Unboxed video yesterday. Gotta see now people trying to justify the RTX 2060/2070/2080. Only the 2080 Ti brings something to the table, and that is pure performance. Ray Tracing tanking performance by 40% is not cool. Neither is useless feature as DLSS.

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Remember when VSR came out and some claimed it looked just like the higher resolution? But it really didn't? That's kind of how this DLSS looks to me. Like you are running VSR on a screen that actually has less pixels
I like VSR, it makes my 1080p projector look it's best. Just kind of funny this looks like that.

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So sad seeing Nvidia selling their loyal consumer base gimmicky overpriced garbage features like Limited Ray-Tracing and DLSS and the consumers falling for it. RT is basically Hairworks 2.0. I can now see why AMD is on the up-rise.

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Now where are those few users who were insisting over and over that DLSS would bring massive performance gains and no visual hit?

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Now where are those few users who were insisting over and over that DLSS would bring massive performance gains and no visual hit?
Gone like the wind. I know I don't own a card capable of DLSS but I was excited for the technology itself with the impression visuals were intact. Shame it was a major disappointment.


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Now where are those few users who were insisting over and over that DLSS would bring massive performance gains and no visual hit?

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An ocean of promises in bloom
Shills strike curious poses
They feel the heat
The heat between Nvidia and DICE

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Jensen, how can you just leave us standing
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Maybe we're just too demanding
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Maybe you're just like AMD's fine wine
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Nvidia should give every RTX owner a 50% refund.

Of course, we need AMD to actually compete before anything like that will happen, but oh boy am I excited to see what happens when Navi finally does hit.
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So trying to fix the performance increase to make it gain more FPS, nvidia screwed up on the IQ. That is stupid to release a "fix" in their last drivers that made things worse.
It was gaining a decent of performance improvement and their first review showed very little IQ hit in most cases. So either they need to get back to the drawing board, or completely drop it. Seems like their AI is screwing things up.

It is also so strange that while people claim it is just a pre-set upscaler, nvidia claim that in fast GPUs, it is doing too much work to be worth using (contradicting the fact that it is just a simple upscaler). Seems like it is doing more than just upscaling, else I would expect it to have no performance impact on higher FPS.

Quote: Originally Posted by EniGma1987 View Post
Now where are those few users who were insisting over and over that DLSS would bring massive performance gains and no visual hit?
Look at the initial reviews.
They did show very little IQ hits while gained decent amount of FPS increase.
Of course nvidia screwed up somewhere along the lines, which is stupid, but as I said before, we should wait to see how it will go. Sadly it went sideways into a tree on the highway.

This is the opposite to tressfx. People here glorified it massively as the next best thing (most likely because it came from AMD). Look what happened. It kinda disappeared. So double standard aside, I'm waiting to see results before calling it dead.



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