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That's odd. When I drop Object Detail from 100 to 40, I gain 15+ FPS despite being on a 8GB VRAM GPU with only 5GB in use.

Also, if I stand still and wave the mouse around, the FPS can drop as low as 30! Doesn't matter what setting I change.
The ultra preset has it at 60 by default, which is also what I did my testing on for the sake of consistency.


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The concept of getting "shafted" is, mostly, made up by people who wish they had the disposable income to buy before thinking.
Loath as I am to jump into this fight, in my experience people with disposable income (like me) have disposable income because they don't waste their $$ on useless overpriced crap.

I had some THG writer jump down my throat a few months ago when I reamed him for giving a 2080ti a 4.5/5 and THG approved rating because the extreme price point the GPU was selling at. He tried to "high and mightily" pity the poor pauper who couldn't afford a 2080ti, and I had to set him straight too at that time. Just because I think a price is outrageous, doesn't mean I can't afford it. Granted I owe uncle sam $800 in 30 days, so I'm really not in the spending mood, but even with that small hole about to pop into my wallet, I could still easily buy a 2080ti and not have to tighten my belt.

It's still a stupid purchase at a stupid price. $600, yes, I'd been considering purchasing one. $800 it better give me an old fashioned, and come with lots of LEDs to justify that price. 1200 for a video card? you're out of your f-ing mind.

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Loath as I am to jump into this fight, in my experience people with disposable income (like me) have disposable income because they don't waste their $$ on useless overpriced crap.

I had some THG writer jump down my throat a few months ago when I reamed him for giving a 2080ti a 4.5/5 and THG approved rating because the extreme price point the GPU was selling at. He tried to "high and mightily" pity the poor pauper who couldn't afford a 2080ti, and I had to set him straight too at that time. Just because I think a price is outrageous, doesn't mean I can't afford it. Granted I owe uncle sam $800 in 30 days, so I'm really not in the spending mood, but even with that small hole about to pop into my wallet, I could still easily buy a 2080ti and not have to tighten my belt.

It's still a stupid purchase at a stupid price. $600, yes, I'd been considering purchasing one. $800 it better give me an old fashioned, and come with lots of LEDs to justify that price. 1200 for a video card? you're out of your f-ing mind.
Well, there are 2 points to consider.

Firstly, having the money to buy it doesn't necessarily mean you'd prioritize it over other things, which is what you did. I could buy more things if I relinquished some of my responsibilities, but that's irrelevant. You decided to either save the money or spend it elsewhere. In that sense, you don't have literal disposable income.

The second one is that you wouldn't consider yourself "shafted" (the word is getting old...), had you purchased it. You'd have known what you were buying the moment you paid, as you're a free-thinking, responsible consumer.

In retrospect, even though I didn't mention it, I understand what zealord tried to convey. He does have a point. Modern games have been closing the gap, graphically, between the lowest and highest settings, but the performance delta is not as small most of the time. In that sense, it's getting harder and harder to justify increasingly more expensive cards to run modern games with increasingly undifferentiated image quality between both ends of the spectrum.

However, that doesn't invalidate my point, which is observable in the many threads pre and post release of the RTX cards: people complaining about the price and applying the "shafted" concept never bought them and never planned on doing so, and the jubilant users were either pre-ordering them and then using them or simply admiring the technological leap cynically.

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Loath as I am to jump into this fight, in my experience people with disposable income (like me) have disposable income because they don't waste their $$ on useless overpriced crap.

I had some THG writer jump down my throat a few months ago when I reamed him for giving a 2080ti a 4.5/5 and THG approved rating because the extreme price point the GPU was selling at. He tried to "high and mightily" pity the poor pauper who couldn't afford a 2080ti, and I had to set him straight too at that time. Just because I think a price is outrageous, doesn't mean I can't afford it. Granted I owe uncle sam $800 in 30 days, so I'm really not in the spending mood, but even with that small hole about to pop into my wallet, I could still easily buy a 2080ti and not have to tighten my belt.

It's still a stupid purchase at a stupid price. $600, yes, I'd been considering purchasing one. $800 it better give me an old fashioned, and come with lots of LEDs to justify that price. 1200 for a video card? you're out of your f-ing mind.
Can easily afford 2080 Ti but If I buy it at current price 1700 CAD + Tax then I am telling Nvidia its ok, you can go higher.

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Quote: Originally Posted by azanimefan View Post
Loath as I am to jump into this fight, in my experience people with disposable income (like me) have disposable income because they don't waste their $$ on useless overpriced crap.

I had some THG writer jump down my throat a few months ago when I reamed him for giving a 2080ti a 4.5/5 and THG approved rating because the extreme price point the GPU was selling at. He tried to "high and mightily" pity the poor pauper who couldn't afford a 2080ti, and I had to set him straight too at that time. Just because I think a price is outrageous, doesn't mean I can't afford it. Granted I owe uncle sam $800 in 30 days, so I'm really not in the spending mood, but even with that small hole about to pop into my wallet, I could still easily buy a 2080ti and not have to tighten my belt.

It's still a stupid purchase at a stupid price. $600, yes, I'd been considering purchasing one. $800 it better give me an old fashioned, and come with lots of LEDs to justify that price. 1200 for a video card? you're out of your f-ing mind.
Can easily afford 2080 Ti but If I buy it at current price 1700 CAD + Tax then I am telling Nvidia its ok, you can go higher.
Exactly. It's our duty to ourselves to not pay stupid prices for things or guess what happens next generation....

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Exactly. It's our duty to ourselves to not pay stupid prices for things or guess what happens next generation....
Yup. I refuse to pay more than $500 for a video card. My 290x was a minor exception because it included BF4 which I was buying on launch either way. But I'm talking like $520 here if the game was not included.

And it beat the Titan, too. Man I miss the pricing of those days. Exactly what I told Titan buyers then, you are screwing the whole community by giving Nvidia the green light at $1,000. I mean even the 780ti's price sceheme... how's it doing these days with it's 3gb of vram? Only harp on this so much because I almost bought a vanilla 780 right before the 290x launched. So glad I made the right choice.

Anyways! I can easily buy a 2080ti right now, but I refuse to support the current market. It's also why I jumped on a $399 V64 with three games I was buying anyway.


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Yup. I refuse to pay more than $500 for a video card. My 290x was a minor exception because it included BF4 which I was buying on launch either way. But I'm talking like $520 here if the game was not included.

And it beat the Titan, too. Man I miss the pricing of those days. Exactly what I told Titan buyers then, you are screwing the whole community by giving Nvidia the green light at $1,000. I mean even the 780ti's price sceheme... how's it doing these days with it's 3gb of vram? Only harp on this so much because I almost bought a vanilla 780 right before the 290x launched. So glad I made the right choice.

Anyways! I can easily buy a 2080ti right now, but I refuse to support the current market. It's also why I jumped on a $399 V64 with three games I was buying anyway.
I didn't mind the 700$ or whatever it was for the 980/1080Ti. These things are not getting cheaper to make and i'm sure their R&D costs are going up. The "$1000" price for a 2080ti I was not okay with. If that card was $700 I would have bought one already. Now i'm in this weird spot where I'm afraid to buy anything for fear of a new gen that is better priced right around the corner. Whatever settings I have Division 2 on looks good enough and I get 100+ fps so I'll survive for a bit longer. My guess is Cyber punk is what forces my hand.

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Yup. I refuse to pay more than $500 for a video card. My 290x was a minor exception because it included BF4 which I was buying on launch either way. But I'm talking like $520 here if the game was not included.

And it beat the Titan, too. Man I miss the pricing of those days. Exactly what I told Titan buyers then, you are screwing the whole community by giving Nvidia the green light at $1,000. I mean even the 780ti's price sceheme... how's it doing these days with it's 3gb of vram? Only harp on this so much because I almost bought a vanilla 780 right before the 290x launched. So glad I made the right choice.

Anyways! I can easily buy a 2080ti right now, but I refuse to support the current market. It's also why I jumped on a $399 V64 with three games I was buying anyway.
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I didn't mind the 700$ or whatever it was for the 980/1080Ti. These things are not getting cheaper to make and i'm sure their R&D costs are going up. The "$1000" price for a 2080ti I was not okay with. If that card was $700 I would have bought one already. Now i'm in this weird spot where I'm afraid to buy anything for fear of a new gen that is better priced right around the corner. Whatever settings I have Division 2 on looks good enough and I get 100+ fps so I'll survive for a bit longer. My guess is Cyber punk is what forces my hand.
Can only guess most people just buy what they * Need *.

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I'm hoping Navi exceeds the performance envelope of the 2080ti and I hope they don't include RT or tensor cores to do it. If AMD can give me HDR 1440p at 100 FPS they'll have my money and I'm sure I'll live just fine without RT effects or DLSS.
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