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[Guru3d] The Division 2: PC graphics performance benchmark review

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I'm quite happy with the game's performance overall.

They are using a 9900k which is clearly quicker than my stock 4790k (albeit, it's paired with 2400mhz cas 10) and yet even at 1080p my Vega64 results are higher than theirs.

At 4k, DX12 a 1080ti averaged 44fps. At the same ultra setting, DX12 and 4k, my V64 pulls 43fps vs the chart's stock 39fps (not sure if this is air, or liquid cooled). I'm on older drivers as well (18.9.3), but have a minor undervolt/oc on the card. At 1.15 vs stock 2.0 mine sits at 1625mhz core and 1050mhz HBM.

The built in bench tool is actually nice for a change and it automatically saves a screenshot and a excel spreadsheet for comparison. And before anyone questions my settings, it only says "custom" instead of ultra because I obviously disabled vsync for the benchmark. Actually now to think about it, in my radeon settings I've got texture quality to maximum vs the standard by default so I'm actually hurting myself if anything. Going to put that to standard and rerun it just for curiosities sake.

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When I see how amazing modern games look at medium quality settings I always feel like high end enthusiast gamers (people who overpaid for cards like RTX 2080 Ti, Titans etc.) got extremely shafted in their pursuit of maxxing out games.



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When I see how amazing modern games look at medium quality settings I always feel like high end enthusiast gamers (people who overpaid for cards like RTX 2080 Ti, Titans etc.) got extremely shafted in their pursuit of maxxing out games.
Would that be your rationale for buying a Titan? Perhaps that's why you're not buying one. Judging from owners and reviews threads, people buying expensive hardware do so because they can, more than because they need it for something specific. People with a strange need for "maxing out" games with budget constraints would probably not buy a 2080ti or more expensive in the first place. The concept of getting "shafted" is, mostly, made up by people who wish they had the disposable income to buy before thinking.

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The game has been running well for me with mildly overclocked 6700K & GTX 1080. I run mixed settings, everything is ultra/maxed except fog and shadows and I usually sit around 100-120 FPS depending on the area @ 2560x1080.
My last benchmark was 102 FPS with these settings, maxed shadows and fog drags it down to around 60 FPS.

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The Radeon VII seems to be looking better and better.
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The concept of getting "shafted" is, mostly, made up by people who wish they had the disposable income to buy before thinking.
Please stop with these ridiculous statements. Having disposable income is just that, it doesn't suddenly make a product actually worth said price. On that note, let's stick to the topic at hand which is a benchmark thread.

I must say, even though my average fps was 43fps the lowest it actually dipped to during the bench was 38fps and it was brief. I'm impressed with the 1% lows DX12 offered. Ironically, running DX11 saw my avg fps in the benchmark go down to 37fps.

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Very helpful if you want to squeeze extra performance. Around the 16:00 minute mark has a list of recommended settings.

Yup, they did a great job on optimizing settings here. Very little if any visible difference I can tell yet I went from 43fps avg to 53fps avg at 4k using their "HUB Quality" list.
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Would that be your rationale for buying a Titan? Perhaps that's why you're not buying one. Judging from owners and reviews threads, people buying expensive hardware do so because they can, more than because they need it for something specific. People with a strange need for "maxing out" games with budget constraints would probably not buy a 2080ti or more expensive in the first place. The concept of getting "shafted" is, mostly, made up by people who wish they had the disposable income to buy before thinking.
overclock.net is different from real world. Everyone I know in real life who buys expensive graphic cards is on the mindset of "I really want to max out and not be bothered by lowering my settings". I also see this mindset in a lot of other forums I am active where gaming is much more of a focus. (overclock.net is not really a board for gamers, it is much more about the hardware itself and focusing on doing builds and overclocking). Looking at what people in overclock.net owner clubs and review threads are doing with their cards is like going to a tuners meeting to see what people are doing with their cars. A tiny fractions tunes their car but the huge majority just wants to get from A to B.

You are also taking it personal and sound triggered resorting to attacks on people lacking funds for overly expensive hardware and this is your choice in life of how to see and approach things reacting to it, but I actually meant it more from a game developer and hardware manufacturer side. Those games have to run well on 1.3 TFLOPs consoles but still look good enough so we can "guess" what the common denominator between it all is. I don't like it. Makes you wonder what games could look like if they actually were developed for a card like the RTX 2080, but this won't happen because the majority of gamers are on consoles or low-mid end graphic cards like a GTX 970, RX 570 etc.
(well maybe not necessarily the RTX 2080 because that card is a big yikes at 800$ with 8GB VRAM. it basically screams planned obsolescence and memory amount and speed is much more important than people think right now going forward especially with next gen consoles on the horizon probably having 16-20GB of shared memory, but obviously Nvidia knows that so people have a reason to upgrade sooner rather than later which Nvidia does welcome very much. This was just a much better option for Nvidia than going with more VRAM, because that would make the cards more expensive now and the people less likely to upgrade in the foreseeable future).
But like I said earlier it wasn't meant as a side blow to any high-end hardware owner so I hope nobody gets their ego hurt based on the purchase they made which was not my intent, but rather the industry and how they treat and look at the high end market.

I am just impressed by how good it looks on medium settings compared to ultra. If I look closely I can see a bit of a difference in the lighting and reflections, but it is like a 40% performance hit which is extreme and probably impossible to notice when actually playing the game.



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You are also taking it personal and sound triggered resorting to attacks on people lacking funds for overly expensive hardware and this is your choice in life of how to see and approach things reacting to it
Hardly. If I had more disposable income, I'd have a 2080ti and probaby a 9900k. Just because I'm criticizing a view from a particular camp doesn't mean I don't belong in it. You're taking quite a few liberties making that assumption about me, but I won't hold it against you. We're on OCN, after all. I get criticized here for trying to be reasonable and make no leaps beyond what can be observed or tested.

The people trying to get from A to B, when talking about graphics cards, are buying 2060's and 2070's, not 2080ti's. If someone is telling you otherwise, they're obviously acting poorer than they really are.

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Please stop with these ridiculous statements. Having disposable income is just that, it doesn't suddenly make a product actually worth said price. On that note, let's stick to the topic at hand which is a benchmark thread.

I must say, even though my average fps was 43fps the lowest it actually dipped to during the bench was 38fps and it was brief. I'm impressed with the 1% lows DX12 offered. Ironically, running DX11 saw my avg fps in the benchmark go down to 37fps.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekZQcGK3Prw

Very helpful if you want to squeeze extra performance. Around the 16:00 minute mark has a list of recommended settings.

Yup, they did a great job on optimizing settings here. Very little if any visible difference I can tell yet I went from 43fps avg to 53fps avg at 4k using their "HUB Quality" list.


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