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post #21 of 57 (permalink) Old 05-09-2019, 05:54 PM
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This is the embrace part. Next is extinguish. People are so, uhhh... smart. ya

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This is a very very very very very bad idea.
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Actually, whether M$ realizes this or not, the more people have a chance at an introduction to Linux the better since should M$ decide one day to treat Windows as a paid service a lot more people will jump ship right off the hop as they watch windows gradually sink to present day Linux numbers. Yes a reversal in fortunes would certainly occur.

One we keep the last free Windows to be able to play that 20% of games that would not be otherwise playable and enjoy Linux current libraries and fast paste adoption by the gaming industry along with Vulcan.

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I'm scratching my head and can't find any reason why a dev or anyone else would use a Linux layer *on top* of the mess Windows is now ... Really I can't ...
It's like, building a superb flat on top of crumbling walls.

You need Linux ? Fine, install any distro in dual-boot. Job done. Alternatively, use Linux only on the metal and set up a Windows guest VM for the few tools requiring Windows.

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Yes, I'm so curious how they plan to address the `/` vs `\` debacle in file pathing. It's literally the reason I can't code on windows.
That's annoying as hell. \ is unnatural


Using a Linux kernel on Windows might allow for some of the cool stuff like what some of the modders do with Android. So since Android uses the Linux kernel as a base, you can install certain apps with root privileges that will hook into this and then run full GNU Linux on top instead of the Java Android environment. Seems trivial since you can actually run full Linux bare metal on desktops, maybe allow traditional Linux user land to be used on non x86 Windows platforms like their tablet/chromebook whatevers, phones, etc...

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Microsoft's only reason for this is to increase Windows 10's user numbers by getting Linux users and dual booters, mainly developers, to switch to Windows full time, which gives the impression that Linux's market share is higher or gaining faster than people realize for MS to spend the effort.
Not really. Microsoft server products are aimed at different customers. Companies that adopt linux tend to be pretty big, because they need to have some developers and sys admins on staff in order wrangle linux into exactly what they need. Smaller shops, and those that really benefit from microsoft support, go the other way. Adding linux into windows just makes windows more powerful and capable. I can't see companies who have sunk years into red hat or whatever switching over, but for the sys admins or developers who have experience in linux the extra creature comforts are appreciated, and maybe they will complain less (probably not, but they might).

Microsoft is even starting to build some of their products on top of linux, like Azure. The value of Microsoft's products is really in the support these days.
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That's annoying as hell. \ is unnatural
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did you ever DOS bro?

i hate MS and the internet for making the forward slash so popular.

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did you ever DOS bro?

i hate MS and the internet for making the forward slash so popular.
I hate MS for using back slashes while everyone else uses forward slashes.

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BACKSLASHES OR DEATH!

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BACKSLASHES OR DEATH!

Backslashes suck, it's farther away on the keyboard.

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