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[ExtremeTech] Beyond Hardware: AMD’s Planned Software Improvements For Navi, GCN

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We’ve been covering AMD’s Ryzen and Navi announcements at E3 throughout the week, with one more aspect of the situation left to discuss. While we’ve discussed Navi and its RDNA architecture, we haven’t talked about any of the software improvements AMD intends to offer with its next GPUs. Some of these gains will also be available to GCN cards as well.
Exciting news regarding AMD's upcoming drivers. High sharpness looks fantastic on games which is why I use Acer's Super Sharpness while most text looks distorted on web pages when it's enabled. Hopefully Radeon Image Sharpening provides the same experience when gaming and doesn't hurt text quality.

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Let's see how this turns out. Their software side has been really strong since Polaris. Hopefully they keep it up.
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Navi looks like AMD are scalping fanboys. Midrange performance at high end prices. Software isn't going to sweeten the pill.

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Navi looks like AMD are scalping fanboys. Midrange performance at high end prices. Software isn't going to sweeten the pill.
It might look like that but it has a few thing going on. Through the years AMD has tried many times to get market share by undercutting Nvidia in perf/$, but that didn't work for them. They have decided they don't care as much about market share and Lisa wants to make more money with Navi. It also does looks like to me that they are trying to bait Nvidia into a price war. With the margins they have, Navi could be 100$ cheaper.
On the other side the CPU division is doing great witch could translate in more GPU sale. More people will thing that they probably have good GPU because they have a good CPU.

The thing I don't like about Navi is that RDNA will be the main architecture for the next years. They have architecture that is on 7nm and draws more power then Turing for the same performance. RDNA should be scalable, but I don't see how they will get performance in the future if they already are using so much power. They also can't make radical changes because they have to keep compatibility with GCN because of the consoles.

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Navi looks like AMD are scalping fanboys. Midrange performance at high end prices. Software isn't going to sweeten the pill.
such a minute issue... you should be looking at it like this. Navi is AMD's 680.

7970 was $550-$600 at release... 5700 on the 4x more expensive node (+ a decade later) is $550 dollars at release. Honestly, y'all are just scratching for any little thing to cry about at this point. It could'a been a $450 2080ti n y'all still would'a cried.

7970 was the best possible thing AMD could make for 5 years, Navi is the first taste, at the mid range, of AMD's new arch...

I assume PS5 isn't being built on this node? seems way too expensive for a $500 box.

not to mention the cold hard fact this card will be $450 or less with 5-10 free games within the year. This price will only stick until Nvidia Stuper comes out.

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It might look like that but it has a few thing going on. Through the years AMD has tried many times to get market share by undercutting Nvidia in perf/$, but that didn't work for them. They have decided they don't care as much about market share and Lisa wants to make more money with Navi. It also does looks like to me that they are trying to bait Nvidia into a price war. With the margins they have, Navi could be 100$ cheaper.
On the other side the CPU division is doing great witch could translate in more GPU sale. More people will thing that they probably have good GPU because they have a good CPU.

The thing I don't like about Navi is that RDNA will be the main architecture for the next years. They have architecture that is on 7nm and draws more power then Turing for the same performance. RDNA should be scalable, but I don't see how they will get performance in the future if they already are using so much power. They also can't make radical changes because they have to keep compatibility with GCN because of the consoles.
For these cards they chose a small die and high clock speeds... They can probably increase efficiency greatly if the lower clock speeds a bit and go wider, as in more compute units. But I don't know if they want to go that route.
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such a minute issue... you should be looking at it like this. Navi is AMD's 680.

7970 was $550-$600 at release... 5700 on the 4x more expensive node (+ a decade later) is $550 dollars at release.
Not to mention the additional ram and more elaborate VRM.

I really don't see anything wrong with Navi...or even "RTX" if the Super cards do anything for pricing.
GPUs are expensive to make and a huge risk, I wouldn't bother with all of that to be known as the cheaper alternative with an overclocked rebrand of a rebrand. I guess if that's all you wanted you can already get those so...

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