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[The Verge] LaLiga’s app listened in on fans to catch bars illegally streaming soccer

https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/12/1...streaming-fine
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Spain’s data protection agency has fined the country’s soccer league, LaLiga, €250,000 (about $280,000) for allegedly violating EU data privacy and transparency laws. The app, which is used for keeping track of games and stats, was using the phone’s microphone and GPS to track bars illegally streaming soccer games, Spanish newspaper El País reported.
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but its ok to break the law to find law breakers, amiright?

well, it is in the U.S.

really this stuff reminds me so much of the gold rush days . . territories w/little to no laws, rampart vigilantism for law enforcement but i can't say people are getting killed (much).
and it wasn't any laws or enforcement that stopped it, it was the end of the gold rush.

if only people only realized companies use to pay for what is now freely given. it doesn't even matter what you do, if anyone, friend or family, has your info on their phone, its been got.

this is why i have no friends.

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nothing worse than a narc.
on the point of giving away the data companies used to have to buy... there are restaurants opening that sell food at cost by getting patrons to install their data collection app on your phone + personal info, address, etc.

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at cost?
i use to get $25 to $50 to fill out a survey in the 90s, early oughts and that was jut my info.

brave browser does have a rewards program, though i wasn't interest enough too look closely but, i guess those are something

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at cost?
i use to get $25 to $50 to fill out a survey in the 90s, early oughts and that was jut my info.

brave browser does have a rewards program, though i wasn't interest enough too look closely but, i guess those are something
Now a'days the low IQ ones just get scammed into an endless feedback loop of doing surveys, hoping that one day that best buy gift card receipt page will finally load.

I've not really looked into it much, but one thing has for sure changed.

The death of privacy. My brother's kids only know about privacy because they were taught it at home.

They all want to give it away now, so the need to actually pay for it has gone away. At least, the up-front need to directly buy it from the consumer themselves. Now you buy it from firms, and market research entities which are essentially the middlemen between the gatherer's (apps)

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2004 on facebook

the day the privacy died.
(sung to the day the music died)

of course i'm overlooking AOL/compuserve. i used my free university account for 10 years until i moved to another county. well that was dial up.

ok, enough memory lane stuff. no wonder kids want to put me out to pasture; i keep talking about better days.

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Quote: Originally Posted by looniam View Post
at cost?
i use to get $25 to $50 to fill out a survey in the 90s, early oughts and that was jut my info.

Used to be $50-$300 here.



Now the same company rarely pays over $125-$150, but I still get notifications from them, but I don't live in that area anymore.
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There are thousands of Spanish soccer fans sat in bars a bit cheesed of without any football ball to watch and it's because their own phones grassed up the bar manager for not having a football licence - Sorry but I find it more amusing than a serious breach of privacy.

"Do you want 'Football Stats' to know where you are and record what you're saying all the time - Yes/No"

It's not like it's malware attempting to subvert permissions, it asked for mic and GPS. Why would you give an app that keeps track of football games and stats permission to access the microphone and GPS? Every platform can audit permissions on a per app basis now. People just need to be taught to aggressively use it.


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There are thousands of Spanish soccer fans sat in bars a bit cheesed of without any football ball to watch and it's because their own phones grassed up the bar manager for not having a football licence - Sorry but I find it more amusing than a serious breach of privacy.

"Do you want 'Football Stats' to know where you are and record what you're saying all the time - Yes/No"

It's not like it's malware attempting to subvert permissions, it asked for mic and GPS. Why would you give an app that keeps track of football games and stats permission to access the microphone and GPS? Every platform can audit permissions on a per app basis now. People just need to be taught to aggressively use it.
you're right about why an app needs permissions. however, even when unnecessarily granted, it does not give license to do whatever with the data. ie read privacy policies. and not to be so nit picky but for many w/o always buying the newest device/platform, those options are not available.

why the need to upgrade a device for something that shouldn't be there in the first place?

this is a serious breach of privacy disguised as law enforcement.

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There are thousands of Spanish soccer fans sat in bars a bit cheesed of without any football ball to watch and it's because their own phones grassed up the bar manager for not having a football licence - Sorry but I find it more amusing than a serious breach of privacy.

"Do you want 'Football Stats' to know where you are and record what you're saying all the time - Yes/No"

It's not like it's malware attempting to subvert permissions, it asked for mic and GPS. Why would you give an app that keeps track of football games and stats permission to access the microphone and GPS? Every platform can audit permissions on a per app basis now. People just need to be taught to aggressively use it.

It's because people are idiots. Just look at all the Flashlight apps for Android that ask for full network access, contact lists, and storage access....and they get good reviews.

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