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[HotHardware] AMD Radeon RX 5700 Image Sharpening Comparison Shows Impressive Visuals, Minimal Performance Hit

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One of the features that we didn't get a chance to really do a deep dive into in our review, was Radeon Image Sharpening (RIS) and the performance impact that it may or may not have on games. In short, RIS is a contrast-adaptive algorithm that sharpens a game scene. RIS draws out details in low contrast areas of a scene, without negatively impacting high contrast areas. It is basically a post-processing compute shader that evaluates a 3x3 pixel neighborhood and applies the sharpening algorithm where applicable.

RIS is an exclusive feature that AMD has rolled out for Navi-based cards for now, so don’t expect to see it on cards like the Radeon VII or Radeon RX Vega 56/64 just yet. It is activated using a simple software toggle switch and it is not dependent on developers adding support.
Looks the same as my monitor's Super Sharpness

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Have you ever seen Super Sharpness in person? It does the same exact thing without any performance impact.

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Looks good actually. And the performance impact is negligible. Sharper does not always look better though.
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Have you ever seen Super Sharpness in person? It does the same exact thing without any performance impact.
No and I don't need to. Everything I read about Super Sharpness is recommendations to turn it off and how bad it looks and RIS looks quite nice actually. In fact there are RIS screenshots around that I honestly believe no monitor sharpening can pull off.

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No and I don't need to. Everything I read about Super Sharpness is recommendations to turn it off and how bad it looks and RIS looks quite nice actually. In fact there are RIS screenshots around that I honestly believe no monitor sharpening can pull off.

https://www.pcgameshardware.de/Radeo...-Test-1293637/
It's recommended to turn off while surfing the web because it outlines text while RIS only applies to games.

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I guess it would work on games without in-game sharpness setting. Could be hit and miss for some games. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to have feature like this if this doesn't have much performance hit anyways.

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I turn off antialising in most games b/c I think it makes them look too blurry. I also always turn off boom (one of the main reason I never stuck with Zelda series) as well. If this would allow for a crisper antiailising I'd be all for it. forgive my spellng
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It's recommended to turn off while surfing the web because it outlines text while RIS only applies to games.
Doesn't that mean it is a low quality filter?

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
Have you ever seen Super Sharpness in person? It does the same exact thing without any performance impact.
Yes and it looks like some low quality trash with tons of artifacts.

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I turn off antialising in most games b/c I think it makes them look too blurry. I also always turn off boom (one of the main reason I never stuck with Zelda series) as well. If this would allow for a crisper antiailising I'd be all for it. forgive my spellng
You can use ReShade finesharp to combat blurrying AA in some games. Though there indeed are games where no AA is the only sensible option until they fix their crappy AA methods.

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I guess it would work on games without in-game sharpness setting. Could be hit and miss for some games. Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt to have feature like this if this doesn't have much performance hit anyways.
It's likely a post processing shader nothing more that is added by GPU driver instead of ReShade, something that could have been in GPU drivers for ages now where you could add your own shaders to any game right in the driver with no need to inject ReShade. Similar to video players that are essentially a graphics engine with shader support and you can add what ever shaders you want.

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From the example screenshots it looks they made the effect very strong and it is not adjustable which is a big minus for any sharpening method. CAS is good if done right especially a fine one but it needs adjustment of the parameters by user to tweak it to almost unnoticeable amount that will not make it look like a sharpness artifacting filter was put all over it.

Which is where ReShade shines, you can edit the parameters of finesharp or write your own.

They need to take a look at how MadVR sets up it's default settings and presets, they are barely noticeable but they do have an impact and that's the trick. Make it great but don't throw it into users face by overdoing it. Less is more when it comes to sharpening and all post processing.
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