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post #11 of 58 (permalink) Old 08-04-2019, 12:39 PM
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Not for all Dell products apparently. They will absolutely not install on my G3 3579 or my buddies G7 7588 without a workaround.
must be a newer thing, i use driver directly from nvidia's website for my precision from late 2014

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Got a 1060 and a couple of 1050s that are still in Driver 317 or something. Seems like this vulnerability needs local access, so my guess not a big deal for most.

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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post


Trying to install the DCH package mentioned tells me to contact Dell for appropriate drivers. It's dumb.
That's the standard vs DCH drivers of Windows. Had that happen too on desktop when I DDUed after 1060 and installed 2070 and couldn't get the standard drivers to install because Windows automatically installs DCH and you can't cross install. DCH is newer so use that and remove the older driver in older format/standard.

You can see it in NVCP about page etc. that you're on DCH or standard. Also now in GPUz. Yeah it's stupid that they had to make two separate downloads without much explaining it instead of having 1 installer that deals with the small difference and install the appropriate version on it's own or makes the update to newer on it's own. There is some hack on TPU to get standard installed after your system auto installs DCH.

The only problem with laptop GPUs is the mGPU setups with dual GPUs. But even that nowadays should just install NV and Intel drivers from their site and call it a day.

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What is this about anyway, I've installed NV driver recently and that's 431.70 which is the latest even today and not listed as vulnerable. It has been out since 29th, almost a week now. And the older 431.60 since 23rd.

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post #14 of 58 (permalink) Old 08-04-2019, 05:07 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
That was the regular driver. My only real option is to mod the drivers from what I can tell.

This is the error from the DCH driver. Clean install after DDU in safe mode has the same results.

Quote: Originally Posted by JackCY View Post
That's the standard vs DCH drivers of Windows. Had that happen too on desktop when I DDUed after 1060 and installed 2070 and couldn't get the standard drivers to install because Windows automatically installs DCH and you can't cross install. DCH is newer so use that and remove the older driver in older format/standard.

You can see it in NVCP about page etc. that you're on DCH or standard. Also now in GPUz. Yeah it's stupid that they had to make two separate downloads without much explaining it instead of having 1 installer that deals with the small difference and install the appropriate version on it's own or makes the update to newer on it's own. There is some hack on TPU to get standard installed after your system auto installs DCH.

The only problem with laptop GPUs is the mGPU setups with dual GPUs. But even that nowadays should just install NV and Intel drivers from their site and call it a day.

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What is this about anyway, I've installed NV driver recently and that's 431.70 which is the latest even today and not listed as vulnerable. It has been out since 29th, almost a week now. And the older 431.60 since 23rd.
Have you tried laptopvideo2go? Or making an INF mod request there?

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I have to say; the past two driver updates from nVidia on my own, personally built desktop for my 1080ti would not install. It would always error out. Something about wrong driver package for hardware or something similar. That is, until I installed Geforce Experience. Then they would install fine from within NGE. That's with a clean windows install also. Happened to me twice on my 3900x Asus ROG CHVIII Hero (wifi)

Something funny is going on and I believe nVidia is definitely pushing NGE.
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Quote: Originally Posted by speed_demon View Post
I'd update my driver but us laptop users can only use what the OEM supplies us, which in my case is Dell. So my GPU driver is 5 months out of date already.
I had this issue too but it turned out it was because once you DDU and then log back into windows with the internet on it downloads and installs the windows update one automatically and when you run the installer it throws up that error because DDU can not shut off driver downloads from windows update.

So what you have to do is, disable all network adapters, reboot into safe mode, ddu, reboot into normal mode (with network still off), install non-DCH drivers and it should work at that point. Good luck.
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Quote: Originally Posted by LancerVI View Post
I have to say; the past two driver updates from nVidia on my own, personally built desktop for my 1080ti would not install. It would always error out. Something about wrong driver package for hardware or something similar. That is, until I installed Geforce Experience. Then they would install fine from within NGE. That's with a clean windows install also. Happened to me twice on my 3900x Asus ROG CHVIII Hero (wifi)

Something funny is going on and I believe nVidia is definitely pushing NGE.
They have a help page that even shows up when not searching for Nvidia: https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answ...windows-10-faq
Intel: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...rporation.html

And finally the M$ pages I was looking for:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...versal-drivers
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...iver-scenarios

This stuff is old now but people who don't know still fall into the trap a year later anyway.

GFE works around the issue because it detects standard vs DCH and installs the compatible version. This is something the gigantic driver package should have been doing really.
I never install GFE bloatware.

I think there was some other related Intel GPU drivers issue but that's faint memory.

Quote: Originally Posted by JuanDeage View Post
I had this issue too but it turned out it was because once you DDU and then log back into windows with the internet on it downloads and installs the windows update one automatically and when you run the installer it throws up that error because DDU can not shut off driver downloads from windows update.

So what you have to do is, disable all network adapters, reboot into safe mode, ddu, reboot into normal mode (with network still off), install non-DCH drivers and it should work at that point. Good luck.
Or just install DCH driver, huh? Why not. They are finally updated.

Easiest is to DDU old drivers and then install DCH because that's very likely what Windows will auto install on boot before you can launch your own driver install.
NVCP is not in "metro" style or anything, everything is the same, it only says DCH instead of standard under driver details. The DCH are said to be better structured and easier to update only core parts etc. or so they say, I don't feel like reading the dev details when I'm not writing drivers am I.
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NV gives reason to push everyone to it.

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Got a 1060 and a couple of 1050s that are still in Driver 317 or something. Seems like this vulnerability needs local access, so my guess not a big deal for most.
Does seem like it will come and go with the GPU driver priority moved up to critical a week on Tuesday. I'm clueless when it comes to browser based graphics, can you load a shader or access any DirectX, that would seem to defeat any sandbox so I guess not?


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