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post #21 of 58 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 09:16 AM
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For those that don't want telemetry phoning home even after you've selected only the driver for install (i.e., no GFE) or used the older method of slimming down the install folders before installing, delete these in the following order (note: this applies to the regular driver installer):


1. Delete the folder "DisplayDriverRAS" from C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Display.NvContainer\plugins\LocalSyste m\

2. Delete the folder "DisplayDriverRAS" from C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\


The reason why a basic driver install still phones home is that NVDisplay.Container.exe now has a plugin system (at least since driver 430.39) and can phone home telemetry with the help of a DLL that contains the telemetry portion. Deleting the above gets rid of the relevant DLL.


Talking about the topic, keeping a phone home routine in a basic driver component that then calls a DLL doesn't seem like a secure design. Companies will seemingly do anything to get telemetry these days unfortunately.

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Those folders do not exist on DCH driver install.

They are under ProgramData and Users/All Users/. These are a copy of each other and there are no DLLs or executables there.

The only NV telemetry DLLs I found were in DriverStore, probably old Windows backups.
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Yeah, I'm talking about the regular driver installer, fetched from Nvidia's site. I'm using Windows 7 anyway, I don't have to deal with that additional regular / DCH mess.

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Trying to install the DCH package mentioned tells me to contact Dell for appropriate drivers. It's dumb.
This happens to me after 1903 update, then installing new 2080ti cards. Not a dell, total custom build. Had to use DDU in Safe Mode, disable internet access so windows wouldn't auto-install their drivers, restart, then I could install whatever nvidia driver I wanted.

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Personally I'll wait till scumvida release a proper "stable" driver (if they can ever do that) before updating. The amount of problems I've had with Nvidia drivers since switching from my 290 to a 1070 are beyond annoying, constant black screens and driver and game crashes, even some BSOD .

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interesting... I've had tons of black screen/fail to fully launch issues on sli in 10 gen, and its a tech i'd say I know pretty well, been using it consistently since fermi...

certain games won't launch, period anymore.

pretty sure mines related to board damage though, so I've gotta replacement at home that i'm installing this weekend.

if the sum of all parts bench fine individually, but fail to play nicely in real world 3D... what's the issue?

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This happens to me after 1903 update, then installing new 2080ti cards. Not a dell, total custom build. Had to use DDU in Safe Mode, disable internet access so windows wouldn't auto-install their drivers, restart, then I could install whatever nvidia driver I wanted.
Again a standard vs DCH driver. You're trying to install wrong version of driver (standard) after Windows already updated your system with a newer driver format version (DCH). People don't learn or like changes, that's the whole problem.
It should have been handled better by NV, yes, auto detect in the installer instead of only giving a download option on web. Hey at least the option on web is there, that wasn't always the case for some drivers and then you had to hunt down manually or make a support request for it when DCH was released. But it's been a long while since.

If you only search the driver install error message, you will find the explanation that you need to select standard vs DCH correctly pretty much instantly.
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Again a standard vs DCH driver. You're trying to install wrong version of driver (standard) after Windows already updated your system with a newer driver format version (DCH). People don't learn or like changes, that's the whole problem.
It should have been handled better by NV, yes, auto detect in the installer instead of only giving a download option on web. Hey at least the option on web is there, that wasn't always the case for some drivers and then you had to hunt down manually or make a support request for it when DCH was released. But it's been a long while since.

If you only search the driver install error message, you will find the explanation that you need to select standard vs DCH correctly pretty much instantly.

Ok... downloaded the latest studio driver from nvidia.. got that error.. did what I did and it worked. Why is the DCH driver not on the download page if that's supposed to be the new norm and I'm forced to take extra steps just to find it? And how does that mean I don't learn or like changes exactly? No reason to get rude over a driver.

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Quote: Originally Posted by KCDC View Post
Ok... downloaded the latest studio driver from nvidia.. got that error.. did what I did and it worked. Why is the DCH driver not on the download page if that's supposed to be the new norm and I'm forced to take extra steps just to find it? And how does that mean I don't learn or like changes exactly? No reason to get rude over a driver.
There isn't any extra steps to find the DCH driver. It's also the default driver when downloading them.

Source: https://www.geforce.com/drivers
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