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[Digital Trends] Nvidia says it’s better than AMD for low-lag gaming, and has the data to prove it

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Nvidia has been showing off some new technological innovations at this year’s Gamescom show, most of which require one of its RTX graphics cards to experience at their full potential. One that doesn’t is the new, ultra-low latency option that’s now included with its latest Game Ready Driver (436.02), which debuted during the show. It, like AMD’s anti-lag, helps reduce latency between user inputs and their action in games. According to Nvidia’s own benchmarks, its solution is better.

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That's nice nVidia. Maybe attempt to lower prices so people don't have to look at your competition so often to build their next PC.

As someone who has used both the 1060 and RX 580, I can say, anyone that plays in a competitive scene and wants over 100 fps at all times will get just that with those cards. There's a constant misconception I read that people want to play competitive games (wanting highest framerates) but then want good visual quality (High settings) when those two things don't go together... at all. If you want high framerates, you often nuke the settings and leave only certain options tweaked to better assist your perception like shadows and the like.

For anyone that doesn't have a GPU budget over $160, a 580 or 1060 is PLENTY for basically anyone out there. Used or not, the 1060 is only ~17% slower, on average, compared to a 1660. Not really worth spending another $60 for that imo.

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lol i using 2080ti underwater + oc . In bf5 , raytracing is trash, and dlss trash too , blur as ****
You guy can see it , i upload images with RTX OFF and RTX ON+DLSS after:
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lol i using 2080ti underwater + oc . In bf5 , raytracing is trash, and dlss trash too , blur as ****
You guy can see it , i upload images with RTX OFF and RTX ON+DLSS after:
Damn, the first screenshot looks terrible. Maximum ISO...

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NVIDIA's lower input lag results with the 'Ultra' 'Low-latency' mode vs AMD's Anti-Lag is presumably due to the Ultra mode effectively being 0 pre-rendered frames (whether or not there is additional optimization that yields tangible benefits I don't know). AMD's stock Anti-Lag configuration is certainly at least 1 pre-rendered frame (I think it might even vary according to the driver's game profile). So it's quite disingenuous to compare the two Anti-Lag features - AMD's Anti-Lag is designed for GPU-limited scenarios where you want maximum frames whilst lowering input lag, NVIDIA's 'Ultra' 'Low-Latency' mode is for lowest-possible latency scenarios. It would be nice to see AMD add a similar feature themselves (specifically the ability to set pre-rendered frames down to 0 in the AMD game profiles and additional focus on achieving the lowest possible latency).

Given that you can actually set pre-rendered frames using regedit with AMD cards (Main3D value under 'UMD' key, use RadeonMod - 3 values to change) it would be interesting to see some actual button-to-pixel latency comparisons between NVIDIA's Ultra solution and AMD Main3D @ 0 (specifying Anti-lag state).

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That's nice nVidia. Maybe attempt to lower prices so people don't have to look at your competition so often to build their next PC.
+1

Would had bought the 2080S if it weren't for it's ridiculous price. Now I have to wait and see what AMD brings to the table.

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+1

Would had bought the 2080S if it weren't for it's ridiculous price. Now I have to wait and see what AMD brings to the table.
Just hold the line until big Navi or Amphere if you don't need one now. It's a fool's hope that prices will drop then, but a hope none the less!


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lol i using 2080ti underwater + oc . In bf5 , raytracing is trash, and dlss trash too , blur as ****
You guy can see it , i upload images with RTX OFF and RTX ON+DLSS after:

mama always said "don't trust anyone who uses RTX in competitive online FPSes."


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lol i using 2080ti underwater + oc . In bf5 , raytracing is trash, and dlss trash too , blur as ****
You guy can see it , i upload images with RTX OFF and RTX ON+DLSS after:

mama always said "don't trust anyone who uses RTX in competitive online FPSes."
Disable DLSS and RTX On will look better than both. DLSS needs time to improve. AMD is already working on their solution using DirectML.

https://www.overclock.net/#/topics/1730570

If you want even better visuals enable DxR along with FreeStyles Image Sharpening.

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DLSS won't improve until new cards come out with more tensor cores.

DLSS is hamstrung by the hardware.

DLSS is essentially worthless and nVidia knows it. That's why they released that newer image sharpening overlay.

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