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post #21 of 198 (permalink) Old 01-13-2020, 08:46 PM
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It sounds to me it's much easier to repair Windows now adays. If that's all you've done to fix a computer than that's a joke.

I used Hiren's to recover files from shadow copies and disable unsigned drivers to fix boot issues and remove ransomware/root kits or fix broken files after using Norton Ghost. Once getting it up and running I would run a sfc scan and read the log to see what needs to be fixed using SubInAcl. When someone wanted their computer fixed the point was to get it back to them how it was before it stopped working not factory.

When they did want it restored to factory instead of installing windows using a clean ISO I would use diskpart to recreate the partition table using the manufacturer's diskpart text script or create it manually. Followed by reimagining it with imagex using the image file.



All of our networked Windows machines are setup using Deep Freeze.
i'll have to read up on that.

our 65 year old agg background CTO finally stepped down, so some change will be coming soon. Hopefully in the form of getting rid of all of his god awful conservative talk radio tier solutions we've already outgrown. For example, barracuda is garbage. (email archiver/ filter)

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It will be interesting to see which route most windows 7 swearers will go with, be it linux or windows 10.
7 will still be supported till 2023 under a paid service.
But what is there to stop people from getting those updates anyway ?

XP was supported this way through POSready 2009 registry hack all the way up to April 2019.
Basically they supported an 18 year old OS.

Linux gaming is not feasible thanks to Denuvo and all the other DRM stuff.
It stops the Wine from working.
You can even get banned for using Wine which gets detected as a cheat.

Which is why pirates cracking it is a good thing.

I use debian for my NAS because it's free and makes an efficient use of the hardware.

But If I tried to launch Mint (debian based) on my main rig it just refused to work.
Nvidia GT240 is the problem.
If I pull it out then it works without problems.

Only feasible thing would be ReactOS but with more manpower to support and develop it at an adequate rate.
It can directly run Windows apps and drivers with no problems.
Uses some parts of Wine but it's more direct as it doesn't need to translate stuff.

If they really force me to then I will dual boot 7/10.
10 beeing stripped to bones and/or hacked to remove most bloatware/adware.

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Hi,
I say finally no more borking updates

I've only been updating once a year for the last couple years so my schedule just dropped one task
I stopped updating two years ago when I got sick and tired of so many of them borking my machines. I'm now using Linux Mint 19.3. I still have a lot to learn but I'm no longer connecting my windows machines to the "interwebz". I'm in the process of transferring my data (which will take months).

Frankly, I don't give the north end of a south bound furry little rodent if MS extends support or not; I'm through with MS. Period.

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From about 2016 onward I couldn't get Windows 7 to successfully update. Any talk about official support ending is meaningless, Microsoft completely abandoned that OS half a decade ago (if not outright sabotaged it).

So practically if you can get Win7 to run at all today you're pretty much set for life.
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7 will still be supported till 2023 under a paid service.
But what is there to stop people from getting those updates anyway ?

XP was supported this way through POSready 2009 registry hack all the way up to April 2019.
Basically they supported an 18 year old OS.

Linux gaming is not feasible thanks to Denuvo and all the other DRM stuff.
It stops the Wine from working.
You can even get banned for using Wine which gets detected as a cheat.

Which is why pirates cracking it is a good thing.

I use debian for my NAS because it's free and makes an efficient use of the hardware.

But If I tried to launch Mint (debian based) on my main rig it just refused to work.
Nvidia GT240 is the problem.
If I pull it out then it works without problems.

Only feasible thing would be ReactOS but with more manpower to support and develop it at an adequate rate.
It can directly run Windows apps and drivers with no problems.
Uses some parts of Wine but it's more direct as it doesn't need to translate stuff.

If they really force me to then I will dual boot 7/10.
10 beeing stripped to bones and/or hacked to remove most bloatware/adware.
Dual boot is awful, passthrough is the solution you need.

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Linux gaming is not feasible thanks to Denuvo and all the other DRM stuff.
It stops the Wine from working.
Not true. Off the top of my head NieR: Automata has Denuvo and was one of the first games to be whitelisted.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pawelr98 View Post
You can even get banned for using Wine which gets detected as a cheat.
No, it isn't detected as a cheat. The problem is people disabling the anti-cheat to be able to play. Which is the case of Destiny 2. Of course you'd get banned for that.

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I work for a pretty major corporation and it's still split 50/50 for Windows 10 and Windows 7. All the office plebs are on Windows 10 but all operations personnel that are running the control rooms, traffic control, area control or in the 24/7 command centers, everything is still on Windows 7 with no plans to update.

They will probably just pay for continued updates as they have not found a way to reasonably secure Windows 10 in terms of being compliant to a bunch of different regulations. An OS that you cannot control data exfiltration can leave you open to serious NTSB or other government penalties.

Me on my home rigs I switched full time Linux three years ago now and have not looked back. I saw the writing on the wall with Windows 10. You literally need to jump through the biggest hoops in the world, e.g. sourcing grey market LTSB or Enterprise copies, creating custom iso images removing everything you don't want on every update, etc. All that to get the level of privacy that used to come standard on say Windows XP. Basically any Linux distro out of box has the level of security and privacy that would require you to spend countless man hours to wrestle Windows 10 to the same level.

On another note, about Windows 10s overall security and privacy. If you take a spin to the darker corners of the internet, spend some time on some onion cyber security forms; you will will see that's it's a complete reversal. Linux use is like 99% if not 100%. The first thing they teach you on the darknet is "use Windows go to jail". You'll always get the one noob that think he can get away running tor over Windows, those are the guys you see that end up on the wall of shame busted when FBI/DEA used a Windows day zero against them. Bottom line, Windows and "security" is a joke.

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duh... M$ feeds all data directly to the govt. I wouldn't be surprised if that includes all operating systems. Not just 10. Linux will always be the most genuinely secure and private for the end user option. As long as you aren't watching CP, ordering drugs, or trying to get your hack on, there's no reason to fear windows 10. You should probably toss out your phone as well, if you refuse to use win10. At least, unless it too is completely customized to the core... which again, 99% of people don't need because they aren't watching CP, trying to jack stuff, or trying to order drugs.


still fun to learn though. I look forward to a proper gaming replacement, from what I understand its basically already here.

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How to geek has a touching article
I won't miss anything but seeing the same telemetry... updates repeat over and over

https://www.howtogeek.com/469859/rip...g-to-miss-you/

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