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Quote: Originally Posted by ILoveHighDPI View Post
From about 2016 onward I couldn't get Windows 7 to successfully update. Any talk about official support ending is meaningless, Microsoft completely abandoned that OS half a decade ago (if not outright sabotaged it).

So practically if you can get Win7 to run at all today you're pretty much set for life.
At some point they slowed the update servers for Windows 7 down A LOT. Windows 7 would definitely still update, but off a fresh install it can literally take days just for it to find and download the first round of updates.

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Quote: Originally Posted by WannaBeOCer View Post
It sounds to me it's much easier to repair Windows now adays. If that's all you've done to fix a computer than that's a joke.
I own a computer repair business. I've fixed thousands of computers and I've needed to use Hirens exactly zero times. I'm sure it's useful for something, but for general consumer level repair, there would never be a need to use Hirens unless you don't know what you're doing.

And yes, obviously reinstalling/setting up windows is a big part of consumer level repair and windows 10 makes that process much easier, in many ways.


There are no hardware issues that are hard to diagnose on a standard PC, at least for me, at this point.

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Why don't you switch to Linux then?
Because I have literally zero reasons to do that. Outside of a website like this filled with people who are willing to make their home computers harder to use and less functional just to give Microsoft the middle finger over some unfounded data privacy fears, people don't even consider Linux as an option because really for 98% of users, it isn't.

So to answer a question posed earlier in this thread, will people with windows 7 switch to windows 10 or Linux... They will switch to windows 10, obviously. In the real world where the vast majority of people are not OCN nerds, windows for sure.

It's fine to be a fan of Linux or whatever but this website has a lot of people that like to ignore reality and talk as if Linux taking over is right around the corner. Just be realistic.

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correct. the majority of people still on 7 will take the 10 upgrade.

or just go buy a new PC.

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I stopped updating two years ago when I got sick and tired of so many of them borking my machines. I'm now using Linux Mint 19.3. I still have a lot to learn but I'm no longer connecting my windows machines to the "interwebz". I'm in the process of transferring my data (which will take months).

Frankly, I don't give the north end of a south bound furry little rodent if MS extends support or not; I'm through with MS. Period.
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I only updated once a year usually in December or November which ever didn't have many issues
But dumping MS or 7 in general I won't be dumping 7 anytime soon that's for sure
I'm not all that paranoid.
Might have to pick up a third party firewall but that's about all she wrote mbam pro will do just as good as it has always done.

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Hi,
I only updated once a year usually in December or November which ever didn't have many issues
But dumping MS or 7 in general I won't be dumping 7 anytime soon that's for sure
I'm not all that paranoid.
Might have to pick up a third party firewall but that's about all she wrote mbam pro will do just as good as it has always done.
You wouldn't need anti virus if you were using Windows 10. Not that it's immune or anything, but it's waaaay more secure than 7 to the point that anti virus isn't really necessary even for the average user, which I'm sure you are not.

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
Because I have literally zero reasons to do that. Outside of a website like this filled with people who are willing to make their home computers harder to use and less functional just to give Microsoft the middle finger over some unfounded data privacy fears, people don't even consider Linux as an option because really for 98% of users, it isn't.
Oh but I was asking because, and I quote, "Those of us who don't wear a tin foil hat every time we browse the internet are able to appreciate the benefits of a more modern more capable and more secure operating system". Because if you want a more modern, more capable and more secure operating system you are describing Linux to the last letter.

I used to think like you until I found that the Linux (and open source in general) community is taking the user experience very seriously and things are not nearly as hard as they were some five years ago or so. If you need your computer for very basic stuff you'd be far better with Linux. If you want more complex stuff the same. And let me tell you, the thing is unbreakable once you are set up. The only thing that Windows does better (and not all the time) is running games.

I'm quite sure that Linux would be an option for that 98% of users if they knew what it is but they are most of the time computer illiterates too afraid of change, too lazy to try anything else or downright... ugh... gamers.

Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
So to answer a question posed earlier in this thread, will people with windows 7 switch to windows 10 or Linux... They will switch to windows 10, obviously. In the real world where the vast majority of people are not OCN nerds, windows for sure.

It's fine to be a fan of Linux or whatever but this website has a lot of people that like to ignore reality and talk as if Linux taking over is right around the corner. Just be realistic.
Yeah, a billion flies can't be wrong after all.

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
You wouldn't need anti virus if you were using Windows 10. Not that it's immune or anything, but it's waaaay more secure than 7 to the point that anti virus isn't really necessary even for the average user, which I'm sure you are not.

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Oh but I was asking because, and I quote, "Those of us who don't wear a tin foil hat every time we browse the internet are able to appreciate the benefits of a more modern more capable and more secure operating system". Because if you want a more modern, more capable and more secure operating system you are describing Linux to the last letter.

I used to think like you until I found that the Linux (and open source in general) community is taking the user experience very seriously and things are not nearly as hard as they were some five years ago or so. If you need your computer for very basic stuff you'd be far better with Linux. If you want more complex stuff the same. And let me tell you, the thing is unbreakable once you are set up. The only thing that Windows does better (and not all the time) is running games.

I'm quite sure that Linux would be an option for that 98% of users if they knew what it is but they are most of the time computer illiterates too afraid of change, too lazy to try anything else or downright... ugh... gamers.



Yeah, a billion flies can't be wrong after all.
It's cool that you like Linux but again all ask that you be realistic. An open source OS will never be mainstream in any foreseeable future. An improved GUI isn't going to change that and it's really sort of foolish to argue that the only thing keeping Linux from being mainstream is the UI. Open source can't provide the feature a modern OS should have, and Linux is only as secure as it is because it's not used much. If it were mainstream, it would need the backing of a major company to keep up with security. If Windows didn't dominate the market, Linux wouldn't be nearly as secure. Arguments in favor of Linux being mainstream are entirely ignorant and short sided. Linux would lose the only thing that gives it a reason to exist if it were mainstream.

Sorry if you don't like it but I've heard these endless Linux debates before and they're all the same simple minded arguments that don't look at the big picture. People shouldn't be using Linux for simple tasks so that Linux can remain an OS that gains security by being niche.

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You wouldn't need anti virus if you were using Windows 10. Not that it's immune or anything, but it's waaaay more secure than 7 to the point that anti virus isn't really necessary even for the average user, which I'm sure you are not.
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Hi,
Last call
https://www.sevenforums.com/news/422...-jan-14-a.html

Security only
https://www.sevenforums.com/news/422...-jan-14-a.html

Someone on tenforums said new edge is also available for win-7 lol

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