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post #31 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2020, 08:17 PM
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Does this affect QuickSync?

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post #32 of 36 (permalink) Old 01-19-2020, 08:22 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter View Post
I think the point was that what impact will a future mitigation have on Gen.9 performance? Obsolescence by security mitigation? Too many people still using old systems? Need a quick injection of cash from companies replacing their kit? Announce security vulnerability, "mitigate" it (and destroy performance in the process), tell everyone "new chips don't see a performance drop!".... profit?
only problem is anyone with a bit of knowledge in their tech division is telling them to renew on AMD products. MSPs will also pimp AMD solutions going forward, if they haven't already. That only leaves home users victim to these shady tactics, which rarely end well (see Apple's battery update that ended in class action and free warranty replacements)

example - we ordered 100 Vega 10 books last week, BEFORE Ryuk made the news, weeks after windows defender started finding it... Now i'm like a prophet, even though I've been saying the EXACT SAME THING thru all of 2019. We'll be buying nothing but AMD products for the next 3-4 years assuming things keep this way. Maybe Shart's hitting the fan hard enough @ Intel CPU division to speed up the death of core.

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only problem is anyone with a bit of knowledge in their tech division is telling them to renew on AMD products. MSPs will also pimp AMD solutions going forward, if they haven't already. That only leaves home users victim to these shady tactics, which rarely end well (see Apple's battery update that ended in class action and free warranty replacements)

example - we ordered 100 Vega 10 books last week, BEFORE Ryuk made the news, weeks after windows defender started finding it... Now i'm like a prophet, even though I've been saying the EXACT SAME THING thru all of 2019. We'll be buying nothing but AMD products for the next 3-4 years assuming things keep this way. Maybe Shart's hitting the fan hard enough @ Intel CPU division to speed up the death of core.
I was (mostly) joking. I'm working in a place where when I asked for a Threadripper system, I got funny looks... "Why don't you want Intel?"


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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
only problem is anyone with a bit of knowledge in their tech division is telling them to renew on AMD products. MSPs will also pimp AMD solutions going forward, if they haven't already. That only leaves home users victim to these shady tactics, which rarely end well (see Apple's battery update that ended in class action and free warranty replacements)

example - we ordered 100 Vega 10 books last week, BEFORE Ryuk made the news, weeks after windows defender started finding it... Now i'm like a prophet, even though I've been saying the EXACT SAME THING thru all of 2019. We'll be buying nothing but AMD products for the next 3-4 years assuming things keep this way. Maybe Shart's hitting the fan hard enough @ Intel CPU division to speed up the death of core.
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I was (mostly) joking. I'm working in a place where when I asked for a Threadripper system, I got funny looks... "Why don't you want Intel?"
The death of core should be here soon enough.
Check out the max single core of a locked 3.9 single/3.5ghz multi throttle prone 15w sunny cove vs the max single locked 5ghz skylake. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...16115vsm888368
Willow cove (tiger lake) will be faster and I'm really hoping golden cove will have a 8c16t ddr5 desktop sku. It will make ryzen look like fx and that may be being generous to AMD.

What I have will do for now, but I'm pretty hyped about golden cove. I wonder if the supposed redone cache will fix these security flaws that seem pretty inconsequential for the home user, but viable for shared public servers.
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Does this affect QuickSync?
I would think so. QS has its own hardware blocks in the iGPU, but does use the shader cores for compute stuff. So switching between QS compute and graphics rendering of applications will trigger the context switch and flush the EUs. You could probably mitigate this by turning off as much gpu rendering of windows as possible.

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The death of core should be here soon enough.
Check out the max single core of a locked 3.9 single/3.5ghz multi throttle prone 15w sunny cove vs the max single locked 5ghz skylake. https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...16115vsm888368
Willow cove (tiger lake) will be faster and I'm really hoping golden cove will have a 8c16t ddr5 desktop sku. It will make ryzen look like fx and that may be being generous to AMD.

What I have will do for now, but I'm pretty hyped about golden cove. I wonder if the supposed redone cache will fix these security flaws that seem pretty inconsequential for the home user, but viable for shared public servers.
I'm sure they'll rebound just fine, the question is when.

i'm on a 9700k atm, and i've gotta say. I'm an idiot for putting money into something with only 16 lanes. I'm jumping ship over to whatever winner AMD drops at the end of the year.

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