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post #21 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-28-2020, 08:09 PM
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If you haven't tried it yet I'd recommend trying out TAILS just for the experience. I wouldn't run it for every day but it was neat to test out.

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post #22 of 42 (permalink) Old 02-28-2020, 08:16 PM - Thread Starter
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have newest ubuntu on a 5th gen i7, 8gb, SSD lappy, n i'm not impressed. plan to swap it out for something else this weekend.
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If you haven't tried it yet I'd recommend trying out TAILS just for the experience. I wouldn't run it for every day but it was neat to test out.
I agree with this statement I had a great time playing around with TAILS too.

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have newest ubuntu on a 5th gen i7, 8gb, SSD lappy, n i'm not impressed. plan to swap it out for something else this weekend.
I would highly recommend Linux Mint or Debian with MATE, Xfce, etc. If you want a light window manager for a Pi you probably want Openbox/lightdm login manager if its in the repos. I had a setup running Crunchbang Linux + Openbox running in under 200mb of memory back in the day. Debian based for apt as well. If you're a new user try using Mint though (MATE version is good...) and search sudo sergeant on Youtube and watch the tutorials and learn bash.

I've used Linux since 2003 but yes, you have to be willing to study. It can be daunting at first. I'd recommend reading up on basic systemd commands to control services etc. As well as package management. I think it was you sort of hating on Linux at one point as being too complex but it might have been someone else

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I would highly recommend Linux Mint or Debian with MATE, Xfce, etc. If you want a light window manager for a Pi you probably want Openbox/lightdm login manager if its in the repos. I had a setup running Crunchbang Linux + Openbox running in under 200mb of memory back in the day. Debian based for apt as well. If you're a new user try using Mint though (MATE version is good...) and search sudo sergeant on Youtube and watch the tutorials and learn bash.

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edit: https://image.slidesharecdn.com/linu...?cb=1511852168

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Mint is the best distro I have come across so far, it's stable, supported long term and does what I need it to do, which is why I run it on my laptop (19.3 Cinnamon) as well as server (18.3 XFCE).

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hmm.

the most windows tier scrub comment of all time commences now -

so I can't just double click to install things? Kinda silly when you have an installation store!

guess i gotta rewind, start at step 1. how to use the device I wanna use for other things

can confirm trying to do it just like windows, but instead using sudo didn't work

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hmm.

the most windows tier scrub comment of all time commences now -

so I can't just double click to install things? Kinda silly when you have an installation store!

guess i gotta rewind, start at step 1. how to use the device I wanna use for other things

can confirm trying to do it just like windows, but instead using sudo didn't work
LOLLED! Assuming you are serious you just need to be patient. Linux isn't that hard, you just need to learn that things aren't done the same way. In effect, whenever you install something in Windows the installer also uses the command line, you just don't see it, whereas in Linux you do. We've been conditioned to be lazy and take clicking for granted and this is the great strength of Windows. Windows server has a CLI only option as well, proving my point.

I do believe Linux should be simplified even more and that even less should require the CLI in order to make Linux more attractive to the average Windows user.

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LOLLED! Assuming you are serious you just need to be patient. Linux isn't that hard, you just need to learn that things aren't done the same way. In effect, whenever you install something in Windows the installer also uses the command line, you just don't see it, whereas in Linux you do. We've been conditioned to be lazy and take clicking for granted and this is the great strength of Windows. Windows server has a CLI only option as well, proving my point.

I do believe Linux should be simplified even more and that even less should require the CLI in order to make Linux more attractive to the average Windows user.
very very true. Just gotta run off the basics, & get cracking. The issue was, it was further delaying my adalight bias lighting project. I'll re-address once that's complete.

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LOLLED! Assuming you are serious you just need to be patient. Linux isn't that hard, you just need to learn that things aren't done the same way. In effect, whenever you install something in Windows the installer also uses the command line, you just don't see it, whereas in Linux you do. We've been conditioned to be lazy and take clicking for granted and this is the great strength of Windows. Windows server has a CLI only option as well, proving my point.

I do believe Linux should be simplified even more and that even less should require the CLI in order to make Linux more attractive to the average Windows user.
You don't need to touch terminal on Linux. The issue is that Ubuntu has outdated packages. The guides online show users how to update the packages by using terminal. It's easier to add a repo and install the package with two lines than opening the Software Sources GUI.

Just use a bleeding edge desktop distro like Solus or Manajaro and you'll never have to touch a terminal if you don't want to.

Except for nVidia users they'll always need to modify something to install the proprietary drivers.

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