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Yea but that's nto pay to win, pay to skip maybe... so what?
At which point does it become grind to death or pay to get it?
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Enlighten me, lol. Every single Battlefield game since BF2 and the advent of massive sharing platforms like YouTube (and many other AAA games) has initially been met with massive criticisms and hate- likely due to the counter culture to publishers trying to market games, and the inability for people to be their own consumer as they are peddling some opinion piece from a famous youtuber rather than forming their own. Regardless, it is funny to see the consensus then shift after a release or two and suddenly these "terrible" games were the best in the franchise.

Just you wait until Battlefield 7 is coming out and it is some travesty, and how the franchise really went down hill after Battlefield 5. lol.
My opinion has never changed. When BC2 came out, I was disappointed that there was no true Battlefield successor despite the long wait since 2142. That said, I was also OK with BC2 itself, as it was a fun game that never touted itself as a true Battlefield successor. It was very upfront about being a little arcadey stripped down console compatible spinoff of the main series.

When BF3 came out, I was very disappointed that it was *still* not a proper Battlefield successor, but this time it *was* being touted as such. It was really more of a BC2 sequel than a BF2/2142 sequel. I was disappointed in their DLC scheme. I was disappointed with their stupid web browser launcher. I was disappointed that it didn't even live up to the silly BC2 arcade game it followed in many respects. It was a disappointing game, and officially marked the end of me having any faith in future Battlefield titles.

Each new title since BF3 has only confirmed and strengthened that stance. There is no moving goalpost here.

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My opinion has never changed. When BC2 came out, I was disappointed that there was no true Battlefield successor despite the long wait since 2142. That said, I was also OK with BC2 itself, as it was a fun game that never touted itself as a true Battlefield successor. It was very upfront about being a little arcadey stripped down console compatible spinoff of the main series.

When BF3 came out, I was very disappointed that it was *still* not a proper Battlefield successor, but this time it *was* being touted as such. It was really more of a BC2 sequel than a BF2/2142 sequel. I was disappointed in their DLC scheme. I was disappointed with their stupid web browser launcher. I was disappointed that it didn't even live up to the silly BC2 arcade game it followed in many respects. It was a disappointing game, and officially marked the end of me having any faith in future Battlefield titles.

Each new title since BF3 has only confirmed and strengthened that stance. There is no moving goalpost here.
I don't believe you are the majority of people as you have formed your own opinion. BF3 was not well received, and yet, is now one of the most highly regarded in the franchise by most- especially those who never played BF2 or earlier battlefields.

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I don't believe you are the majority of people as you have formed your own opinion. BF3 was not well received, and yet, is now one of the most highly regarded in the franchise by most- especially those who never played BF2 or earlier battlefields.
And therein lies the problem. People who never played BF2 or earlier can't possibly have any idea of what has changed and how those titles compare to the newer ones. They can merely go based on what they can observe themselves, which in most cases, is that the latest game is always the "best" game, because its the one they actually have access to and their friends are willing to play.

Without proper understanding, one can never make a proper judgment. The issue you're seeing isn't that individuals change their mind all the time about what they want in a game, it's that gaming is becoming exponentially more popular and every year we have more people who have never played the previous title in a franchise than those who have.

Game makers know this, and this is why they rarely bother to make a proper sequel anymore, since the majority of their potential market wouldn't know any better anyway. It's more profitable to simply follow whatever the current trend in gaming is, and slap on a name that players may have heard thrown around in good regards but never actually experienced themselves. It's the same reason we see developers get bought, shut down, then reopened with 100% new staff and tasked to work on new games. EA doesn't need BioWare to make a game. The people who actually care about that are a tiny fraction of the market. They just need to be legally allowed to slap BioWare's name on the box so they can generate some of that crucial pre-order hype from paid shills buy using that name that your little cousin heard you mention once or twice, so it must be good.

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Enlighten me, lol. Every single Battlefield game since BF2 and the advent of massive sharing platforms like YouTube (and many other AAA games) has initially been met with massive criticisms and hate- likely due to the counter culture to publishers trying to market games, and the inability for people to be their own consumer as they are peddling some opinion piece from a famous youtuber rather than forming their own. Regardless, it is funny to see the consensus then shift after a release or two and suddenly these "terrible" games were the best in the franchise.

Just you wait until Battlefield 7 is coming out and it is some travesty, and how the franchise really went down hill after Battlefield 5. lol.
What you describe is clickbait and sensationalism. Few games are anywhere close to perfect, and BF1942 was definitely not a shining example of bug free refined gameplay that was somehow lacking in later releases. The fact is, each battlefield game has sold well and been a success. They have all been well rated by critics and gamers alike. We all know that gamers love to over-react especially to anything EA does. You always hear the haters the loudest, but they're just clickbaiters riding the media wave a lot of the time. The fact that the games all did well and people are still playing the older ones should tell you all you really need to know.


I don't really remember any BF game getting a lot of hate aside from BF4 due to the bugs. They get some hate sure but its usually just the flame war COD vs BF stuff and nothing real.

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My opinion has never changed. When BC2 came out, I was disappointed that there was no true Battlefield successor despite the long wait since 2142. That said, I was also OK with BC2 itself, as it was a fun game that never touted itself as a true Battlefield successor. It was very upfront about being a little arcadey stripped down console compatible spinoff of the main series.

When BF3 came out, I was very disappointed that it was *still* not a proper Battlefield successor, but this time it *was* being touted as such. It was really more of a BC2 sequel than a BF2/2142 sequel. I was disappointed in their DLC scheme. I was disappointed with their stupid web browser launcher. I was disappointed that it didn't even live up to the silly BC2 arcade game it followed in many respects. It was a disappointing game, and officially marked the end of me having any faith in future Battlefield titles.

Each new title since BF3 has only confirmed and strengthened that stance. There is no moving goalpost here.
I somewhat agree with your logic but what specifically would you have wanted from BF3 that would have made it more of a BF game that it didnt have? Compared to BC2 it had a lot more of the fully featured stuff, 64 players instead of 32, bigger maps, more vehicles, better graphics.


In reality BF3 was really well recieved. There are some BF gamers that saw it was a letdown, but they're the minority. IMO before BF1, the series was pretty on track, and BF1 isnt bad, just not as good as the others.

Personally I saw BF2 as a big let down because it nad no naval action, but it makse sense from a realism sense because WWII was the last time there were any naval battles. However when I heard they were going to do WWII again I was really looking forward to seeing naval WWII action in frostbite and the fact that it is completely missing is just such a stupid thing to do with this franchinse, it really makes me think there are no brains leading the ship anymore when it comes to BF games.

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No such thing as P2W in a multiplayer, lobbied, time limited FPS. It's not like gear enhancing that requires 1000 orbs with a chance to craft. Unless I'm missing something here where you can pay for super armor and super ammo each game.

But it really does shine the light that EA is trying to get "Gaming as a Service" going and ingrained in people's minds to slowly accept it. That's exactly where they are headed. Eff them.

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I'm pretty sure nobody cares about this game, unless of course you want that authentic bionic asian ww2 lady warriors. Let's all take a dump on every ww2 soldier who died in order to make sjw happy. No. EA can go to hell for all I care.
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I'm pretty sure nobody cares about this game, unless of course you want that authentic bionic asian ww2 lady warriors. Let's all take a dump on every ww2 soldier who died in order to make sjw happy. No. EA can go to hell for all I care.
Yea, I mean, they should have left it where it was, with super soldiers that regenerate health from packages that infinitely fly out of medics and instant resurrection from the dead using a syringe... maybe next they will take us away from using a mouse and keyboard to control a fake avatar, to something much less realistic, because mouse and keyboard is very realistic.

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