Originally Posted by Torvi
LOL and what does it prove? Facts are Facts, pubg and fortnite are highly popular games that both broke world records in terms of players playing at the same time and profits. There is no need to be elitist about "Im NoT pLaYiNg PoPuLaR gAmEs LoOk HoW eLiTiSt I aM"
Because they aren't really that great as games. They're designed for profitability before all else and nearly always come at the expense of something that more serious gamers would enjoy just for the sake of profits. (Nearly always for a company that...wasn't having any problems staying in the black prior.)
I wouldn't care about Fortnite in the slightest if I knew we were still going to get a UT aimed at the market that likes more serious gamers (Especially as Epic absolutely has the cash to do both) but the second a trend takes off, everyone follows it and the rest of us suffer...and I'd say that gamers are getting sick of it given the increasing amount of resentment you see with AAA games these days. Take GTA V for example: We were meant to get two expansion sized DLC packs for it but Rockstar cancelled them and released the completed work as "free" DLC for Online. (Including the now famous $80 Delorean)
...That and these markets tend to be trend based, the gamers don't tend to complain about the stuff they dislike as much as people who are genuine fans of the series' (eg. I'm very hard on GTA Online because it's a pile of crap...and because I love GTA as a series and find it to be extremely disappointing) which leads to devs/publishers being out of touch with their customers...and what do you think caused the video game crash in the 80s? Devs were being forced to crap out games as fast as possible for publishers who wanted to capitalise on profitable names and the like (eg. ET) which lead to consumers just getting sick of being ripped off constantly...We've had the first two consistently get worse for the past two decades and the amount of people upset about the poor value of modern games increases every day.
It's not guaranteed to happen but if the publishers don't smarten up in the next few years, they're going to screw themselves over much like Activision has already managed with Guitar Hero the second they had a bit of pressure and competition from Rock Band. It's easy to give up some value during a tight time, it's much harder to get it back. (especially if times weren't ever actually tight despite the PR releases we get saying so. These are often public companies and you can see they're making a lot of money)
Heck, it might not even be gamers that do it...According to my friend who works at a retail game shop (Still very popular for console titles in Australia) nearly all Fortnite related sales are parents buying some vbucks while buying another game or something for their kid. There's a lot of adult gamers who play it for sure (I know of at least 6 myself) but I'd wager a lot of its profits aren't from that market given the fact that one of those six has actually purchased anything in it.
And sorry, but I don't consider "We're making more money!" to be that big of an achievement for a company. It's easy to make more money in the short term, it's another thing to do so without endangering your entire business model by constantly expecting more from the consumer. They can brag about it in PR statements and my reaction every time is "Uh...Cool, I guess? We're not really going to see benefits from it though, are we?"
Originally Posted by Seyumi
It's OK I am too. I only 100% play single-player experiences on PC only. I guess I just don't like playing with other people. I play PC games to relax...not to work up a sweat, anxiety, adrenaline, and/or stress which is mostly what I experience when I used to play with other people (kids).
There's also the fact that MP games are easier to make "fun" than SP games simply because you're more likely to be playing with mates. I've played games that are unequivocally bad but still managed to have some fun because I was playing with my mates, or even just talking to them on chat while I play.
That's why I laugh whenever I hear someone say that GTA Online is a great game...It's not. I rarely hear of anyone who doesn't play exclusively with friends and says it's a boring grindfest without their mates there, meanwhile the fan made mods for GTA SA are still fun to this day to join a random server and just start playing usually.