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Well pirates are able to play the game already, which proves it.
Pirates always crack the DRM on launch day...sometimes even before the game launches. Which proves just how useless it is doesn't it?
If it's available on Steam and has a strong single player aspect, it will be highly pirated regardless of DRM.

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looks like a much better performing version of the MT engine (the one used for monster hunter) definitely can't do 100FPS @ 4K in MH @ max settings.
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I do too...well sort of.
I don't get bored with good games but I see through the BS quickly. If you game has so little content that you have to force necessary grinding in every aspect of the game, I can spot it within a few hours and that's the end for me.
I feel like there's 1 or 2 AAA titles a year that really got it right in most aspects.
I was looking forward to Anthem but it appears to be a shoot and loot game with no loot. The combat looks amazing and so does the environment and I want to play SO BADLY but they ruined it. I understand the time and effort it takes to get a game as good as it is now but I shouldn't have been released without a solid story and loot that rivals that of Borderlands.
Tbh I absolutely HATE the state FFXV is in but the story seems to be there and the gameplay is very good. The game looks good but not so good that I should be averaging 60fps and dips into the 30s.



I'll be downloading DMC5 from the looks of it, thanks. I've never played one and it indeed looks fantastic.
well youre missing the original point to grind here and where games like borderlands took their loot aspect from, being diablo II.

3 tiers of each base item, 4 tiers of quality and infinite based on properties, either being magical, rare, unique etc. the difference is it was never implemented quite as well as in diablo II. Loki attempted and made a new level of this, but it never caught on. borderlands showed its limits once getting to the final area with dozens of gun cases and never yielding much beyond the 3rd or 4th reloot(apart from a few uniques). dead island simply never had a standard for drops being that even strong bosses just simply dropped money. Diablo II gave you a reason to run caves half a dozen times in a row. or to completely wipe a room before restarting, maphisto, diablo baal and the ultras. a party would average a number of upgrades per run, or supplement another character or at least generate a trade item worthy of an upgrade for the latter.

but back to the OP, dunuvo has clearly become an addon to developers that yields little to be desired. if single player games are broken on day one, whats the point, and MP games tend to have their own filters to block the cheaters, well why buy into it, then be forced to release 2 versions of the exact same game?

and i agree with the above, anthem looked awesome, but unfortunately it has degraded to a typical EA release.

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Quote: Originally Posted by white owl View Post
Pirates always crack the DRM on launch day...sometimes even before the game launches. Which proves just how useless it is doesn't it?
If it's available on Steam and has a strong single player aspect, it will be highly pirated regardless of DRM.
Well yeah, DRM is pointless. The people who actually make the decision to put DRM in games doesn't exactly understand that I guess.
With Sonic, the dev of the game were clearly against DRM and told people to voice their opinions to their publisher. The devs didn't like putting DRM in the game either.

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Well Denovu must must be working since dev's continue to use it !? Not that I support it.

Denuvo usually protects the games for a few weeks. This is the most important time during a new release.

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Well Denovu must must be working since dev's continue to use it !? Not that I support it.

Denuvo usually protects the games for a few weeks. This is the most important time during a new release.
Not true at all.

Most denuvo games are either cracked day 1 or pre-release. It is literally a useless form of DRM. Strictly looking at robustness and functionality, forgetting all the "0MG DR/|\ 1$ teh 3V|l!" nonsense, it's a broken piece of software. It doesn't work. It's not secure. It fails to deliver on its mission statement. In my line of work, that's a failed product by definition.

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dunovo games stopped taking Scene days/weeks to crash within the first few dunovo titles released years ago.
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is the denuvo free exe still available to download?


if so I might actually buy this game

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Not true at all.

Most denuvo games are either cracked day 1 or pre-release. It is literally a useless form of DRM. Strictly looking at robustness and functionality, forgetting all the "0MG DR/|\ 1$ teh 3V|l!" nonsense, it's a broken piece of software. It doesn't work. It's not secure. It fails to deliver on its mission statement. In my line of work, that's a failed product by definition.
I remember the case of Sonic Mania that was broken just 1 day after release and was a sloppy implementation to begin with. You don't screw with a game aimed at hardcore fans. At least SEGA seems to be aware of the POS that Denuvo is and it is moving away from it.

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is the denuvo free exe still available to download?


if so I might actually buy this game
It's gone from Steam but available on the web.

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Well Denovu must must be working since dev's continue to use it !? Not that I support it.

Denuvo usually protects the games for a few weeks. This is the most important time during a new release.
That was the case some years ago but for the past year or so denuvo is getting defeated within days in most cases.

Devs are not the ones who wanna use Denuvo in their games, it's the publishers. I guess they feel better with a false sense of security.
It makes sense because devs work hard to make their game only to wake up to news that Denuvo is making their game worse. I wouldn't be surprised if I hear that some devs "leaked" the non-denuvo exe on purpose.
This was clear in the case of Sonic where Denuvo was giving people issues and on twitter devs asked players to voice their opinion about it to their publisher.

If someone's interested in numbers then DMC5 sold 3 million copies already on PC even though pirates had access to it day 1.
Also, the player count on Steam for DMC5 surpassed Resident Evil 2 Remake which wasn't cracked for about a week.

It's clear that publishers paying extra for denuvo are just buying into this false idea that it increases their sales.

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