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[DSOG] PC gamers report that Epic launcher collects their Steam friends & play history, Epic Games responds

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A few hours ago, Resetera’s member ‘Madjoki’ discovered that Epic Launcher collecting players’ Steam friends and play history. Going into more details, Madjoki found out that Epic Games Launcher on start up searches for Steam install and proceeds to get list of files in your Steam Cloud. This also includes game saves for every user that has logged in on your PC.
Source: https://www.dsogaming.com/news/pc-ga...epic-responds/

Thread on resetera: https://www.resetera.com/threads/dev...see-op.105385/

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So Epic games does the things outlined in the policy to make syncing Steam friends possible. I'm sure people are outraged.

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Things are certainly shifting away from privacy and towards large scale data collection. I recall seeing the local college advertising careers working with "big data" which tells me specializing in managing this information is fast becoming a viable career option.


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Should be an opt-in option. For that matter any system that has significant numbers of minors as customers should have more regulation. No minor is going to read the fine print before hitting accept and companies will exploit that.
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I don't get it. People are going ballistic over the EGS, yet most of the other applications they use on a daily basis collect data. Steam probably collects way more than this. Might as well rip out your internet connection.

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Quote: Originally Posted by maltamonk View Post
Should be an opt-in option. For that matter any system that has significant numbers of minors as customers should have more regulation. No minor is going to read the fine print before hitting accept and companies will exploit that.
Opt in/out will only mean "we give you an option but really, we are going to collect it anyway. Ok? Ok."

I want that transparency would be a thing from the get-go.
If you want to collect information, fine, I want that in bold huge letters on either the package if you buy physical product, or before you purchase it online, that it would be perfectly clear, if and what they collect, before you put a cent on it.

Knowing post purchase that your OS, game, launcher, whatever, are collecting data, and hiding it inside long and complicated EULA, should be one huge no-no.
I don't want to buy an OS upgrade only to find out after I purchased and upgraded, that it puts ads on my system, and install games I definitely do not want to be installed. Nor do I want to buy a game only after installing it, to get the EULA and tells me "we are going to spy on you".

That should be the standard.
A customer should be required to have a PhD in game research to find out what and if and how something is spying or collecting on them. 99.9% of customers are not lawyers or computer expects to know it, and most are not going around reading tech sites to try and figure it out.
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I want that transparency would be a thing from the get-go.
If you want to collect information, fine, I want that in bold huge letters on either the package if you buy physical product, or before you purchase it online, that it would be perfectly clear, if and what they collect, before you put a cent on it.
This will work about as good as having warnings with pictures of lungs and mouths at various points of degradation on cigarette packages. Essentially, they get looked at and read initially, but eventually ignored because people want the product anyway.

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I don't get it. People are going ballistic over the EGS, yet most of the other applications they use on a daily basis collect data. Steam probably collects way more than this. Might as well rip out your internet connection.
People are stupid. They aren't using the term exclusive properly, they aren't realizing that this practice has been going on forever, they don't realize that it happens outside of gaming, and that everyone is cool with it because its not a big deal at all.

REEE i have to click another link. My privacy. People need to realize the only thing they can keep private are things they physically have in their possession.


I don't get it either man.

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I don't get it. People are going ballistic over the EGS, yet most of the other applications they use on a daily basis collect data. Steam probably collects way more than this. Might as well rip out your internet connection.
People are stupid. They aren't using the term exclusive properly, they aren't realizing that this practice has been going on forever, they don't realize that it happens outside of gaming, and that everyone is cool with it because its not a big deal at all.

REEE i have to click another link. My privacy. People need to realize the only thing they can keep private are things they physically have in their possession.


I don't get it either man.
Pretty much. It's not totally futile to keep important data private, but what's outlined in the article is exactly what you'd expect from something that syncs with your Steam friends list.

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