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post #1 of 58 (permalink) Old 05-14-2019, 04:48 AM - Thread Starter
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[G3D] American senator proposes bill against loot boxes in games

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An American senator announces a law prohibiting "manipulative" design in games, media writes, including The Verge. This includes the sale of loot boxes.

The proposed law prohibits the sale of these types of lottery boxes for people under the age of 18.

Also, game mechanics where players can spend money to become stronger in the game, should no longer be accessible to minors.

These systems can also be found more often in mobile games.
I expect this to tank thanks to heavy lobbying and politics.

But also won't really work, because even if games marked as 18+/16+, a lot of parents ignore what their kids are buying.
You see young kids playing RDR, GTA, PUBG etc, way lower than the age restrictions on the box.
And TBF, they don't have the same amount of money as young adults who don't need parent permission to spend on loot boxes.

But I do hope it works. This horrible tactics should die.


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ban it from everything.

restricting a minor online is a joke. As in, in-words-only.

"yes, i'm totally 18!" *grabs mommy n daddy's credit card*

it's pretty much how it works already for most of these games they're buying loot boxes in. Very few are E rated in the PC & console realm.

children with access to parental funds spend an ish'load of money.

looking back to my childhood, before the day of lootboxes & P2W... My parents definitely spent more than I do now on content. I assume that trend is even worse now, as I was forced to be outside at least 4 hours a day. Parents would now go to jail for forcing their children to spend time outside. Every child I see is glued to a tablet from the age of 2 to 32. Also note, an astronomical # of Millenials still receive substantial subsidies from their folks. To the point where it's actually damaged/damaging parent's retirement prospects because they can't figure out how to cut little timmy & susie off. So even if 29 year old Bob is spending $600 of his own work earned money on gamestuff, his parents still come in and subsidize $1,000 a month, which enables said $600 to be spent on games, along with delivery 3 nights a week. (not to mention them still paying for his/her phone, & insurance) <---- the more common than not American Millennial.

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We don't need laws for games, we need better parents

When will a senator propose a bill for that?



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Quote: Originally Posted by skupples View Post
"yes, i'm totally 18!" *grabs mommy n daddy's credit card*

it's pretty much how it works already for most of these games they're buying loot boxes in. Very few are E rated in the PC & console realm.

children with access to parental funds spend an ish'load of money.
Damn lootboxes and their ability to let kids have unrestricted access to their parents' accounts!

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We don't need laws for games, we need better parents
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we'll likely never legislate on the side of personal responsibility ever again. It's counter to everything that defines the modern movement.
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I don't want the government getting involved in games like this. But I also don't see much of a future for quality games when everyone jumps on the easy lootbox/microtransaction train for quick bucks.

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its deeper than that. They're using Casino cash grab tactics, while advertising to children. Tobacco & booze get in big trouble for doing the same. This should follow suit, just like sports gambling sites advertising towards kids.

I agree, ESRB was better than a govt. solution, but I don't think there's a private sector response to this as the private sector goes where the money goes, which is loot boxes. I have this sinking suspicion that we'll all be playing 10-20 year old games, over and over, within 10 years from now... Minus a few VR outliers, just to avoid the one armed bandit centric titles.
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Given the lengths companies like EA are going to to make their games subtlety manipulative on a subconscious level to push people into spending more money, it is something that absolutely needs to be regulated.

Anything in a game that gives you a random item for money or anything that can be traded for money is gambling. It should be treated exactly like a slot machine in a casino or an online poker website. Gambling is already regulated. All they need to do is make sure gambling in video games is covered under the existing laws.

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Quote: Originally Posted by UltraMega View Post
Given the lengths companies like EA are going to to make their games subtlety manipulative on a subconscious level to push people into spending more money, it is something that absolutely needs to be regulated.

Anything in a game that gives you a random item for money or anything that can be traded for money is gambling. It should be treated exactly like a slot machine in a casino or an online poker website. Gambling is already regulated. All they need to do is make sure gambling in video games is covered under the existing laws.
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Instead of new legislation why not just try these companies under the existing regulations already in place for this sort of thing?


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