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That's true and Microsoft sees that! https://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...ux-conference/

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True, it's done on AWS.

Sounds like something that might be great for developers making simple projects with little concern for efficiency. I'm not a programmer but trying to unify so much seems like it would be at the cost of efficiency.

however when it comes to ray tracing specifically, I would think the processing needs to do it would be about the same regardless of what language is used since ray tracing is such a simple thing to program just with really high compute costs.

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Real computing isn't done on Windows.
there can be companies which use windows that is money that goes away from AMD just because they decide to stop the support, also great argument, compute isnt done in windows so lets cripple software development in windows application and affect thousands/millions consumers

22% of the cloud platform runs on Azure not sure how much of that runs on compute but it is the 2nd most used cloud platform

80% consumers use windows https://venturebeat.com/2019/09/01/n...-market-share/

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there can be companies which use windows that is money that goes away from AMD just because they decide to stop the support, also great argument, compute isnt done in windows so lets cripple software development in windows application and affect thousands/millions consumers
Maybe it isn't worth the effort? It is a niche inside a niche. People doing compute on Windows that are also interested in a marginal API.

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22% of the cloud platform runs on Azure not sure how much of that runs on compute but it is the 2nd most used cloud platform
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So what? Is that much of a problem to dualboot or fire up a VM?

I really don't know what kind of spotted unicorn is interested in SPIR-V and can't use Linux to be honest.

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there can be companies which use windows that is money that goes away from AMD just because they decide to stop the support, also great argument, compute isnt done in windows so lets cripple software development in windows application and affect thousands/millions consumers

22% of the cloud platform runs on Azure not sure how much of that runs on compute but it is the 2nd most used cloud platform

80% consumers use windows https://venturebeat.com/2019/09/01/n...-market-share/

Whether you agree with it or not, that's the reality. Compute workloads are done on linux, you only need to look at Windows vs. Linux Threadripper benchmarks to see a reason why. It's more efficient and saves money (no licensing fees). The top 500 fastest supercomputers all use linux. Pixar and Dreamworks Animation use Linux to render their movies.

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Whether you agree with it or not, that's the reality. Compute workloads are done on linux, you only need to look at Windows vs. Linux Threadripper benchmarks to see a reason why. It's more efficient and saves money (no licensing fees). The top 500 fastest supercomputers all use linux. Pixar and Dreamworks Animation use Linux to render their movies.
whether I like it or not is no the matter, if there is use on platform there should be still development , if fastest computer use linux doesnt mean that businesses dont use windows for their own purpose, it is negelecitng the a part of market for acknowledging one market


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Maybe it isn't worth the effort? It is a niche inside a niche. People doing compute on Windows that are also interested in a marginal API.



Wot?

https://www.zdnet.com/article/micros...indows-server/



So what? Is that much of a problem to dualboot or fire up a VM?

I really don't know what kind of spotted unicorn is interested in SPIR-V and can't use Linux to be honest.
SO you are telling me that 80% of the consumers should just make a VM or dual boot to Linux just because they need to adapt to another platform 80% consumers don use? well doesnt seem logic, why adobe premiere and sony vegas support in windows is halted once for all and make it linux only? if someone wants to target same market (Windows) and it is limited to AMD (hardware), AMD should consider there is a need for a market, instead neglecting it

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