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post #11 of 203 (permalink) Old 10-10-2019, 03:08 PM
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Me defending Epic? No no no, you're mistaking me defending logic with me defending Epic.

My stance on the Epic store is simply that competition is good and 30% is too high of a cut for a digital store. I wish it were some other company making a stride to bring competition to Steam, but right now it's just Epic. I have never defended them as a company, I've simply argued that the pedestal people put Steam on is undeserved and in need of serious competition. I have never bought anything off the Epic store, and after this news and their huge Chinese investment, I probably never will.

But I don't want to turn this into another Steam VS Epic debate. We have enough threads for that already.
Alright, fair enough. My bad.

In any case, Tencent owns 40% of Epic.

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Blizzards esports are not a platform like twitter or youtube so while I don't agree with the censorship they are definitely within their rights to curate it how they please. You would think they would have just taken his prize money and a slap on the wrist and been done with it.
They might not be legally bound to abstain from censorship, but they're morally obligated to respect personal opinion, even if that obligation is enforced financially due to public outcry.
Now, I do have little faith in collective human resolve to the point of seriously hurting a giant like Blizzard, so that "obligation" might be pretty dilute.

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Western companies censoring free speech/democratic/truth related topics/thought is not new. Even OCN does it since the excuse is it's against TOS (Terms of Service) just like Activision is hiding behind.

Activision like EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda etc... have been on boycott for a while now. It's easy to ignore Blizzard since Diablo III was crap and their next Diablo will be for the Chinese mobile market.

Come to think of it everything has been on ignore since Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 will be on ignore for a year until all the bugs have been ironed out and I can get everything for $50 CAD.

Getting tired of these greedy, unscrupulous and soulless companies.

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I feel sorry for blizzard getting dragged into an no-win situation. Either way they are screwed. This is not the same blizzard we knew, its been taken over by Activision increasingly and we are now seeing signs that Activision more or less has control on Blizzard. Only thing we can is vote with our pockets like some of us refusing to support any game that has epic game exclusive.

Gaming Industry has been ugly for many years (dlc milking became loot box then something else). It's bound to hit an recession too as the younger generation is not the same as the original generation that fueled its growth.

This story is just reminder to be careful what you say online. China netizens reaches can go far and beyond what you expect and they don't care what nationality and country you live in. They literally managed to get high profile executives from HSBC Global UK Headquarters to resign to protect the multinational company's operations in Asia Pacific (it has long history there too).

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Kidding about wanting to see a list? No, infact, I was not kidding. I have been trying to find a list about this already, but haven't been able to.
You will get a shorter list of what they are NOT partially owning.
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acting like its news that Activision pulls the strings

sucks that their ceo is a pedo, and that they're selling out to the chinese. that's for sure.

i wonder if the trump admin is going to move towards some sorta legislation that helps slow china's ability to gobble up NYSE 1s n 0s.

HK + this + the NBA groveling for forgiveness. What "ERR MRR GRRRDD WE'RE OFFENDED" nonsense will they pull next?

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Skrupples, your talking about Bobby Kotick. I don't think anyone really liked that guy. Story of two sides.

On the business side, that guy was an genius. Remember, Blizz Activision went through a lot in the early 2000's to now. Blizzard may not have survived the period from Cendent bankruptcy to the disasterous Vivendi ownership (where Blizz/Activision was literally helping the company stay afloat). It was one of the better managed companies financially as we saw its competitors go under. Outside of Tencent/couple others, most of the video game industry is relying on investor funding as there financial results are not something to glow about. That being said, Cendent bankruptcy was sure interesting, can't believe an company still went bankrupt but it held so many valuable assets in many sectors. I don't get how EA is still around when it has not been making money for long long time. Even Take Two and Zen Max are not that financially strong, while the games rock star and bethesda sell very well, they have couple years where you are eating capital without any return. Even Kotick decision to downsize the amount of games they made was smart in light of the current video game market.

Most gamers however dislike him all the way back then. He started the microtransactions from DLC to loot boxes. Don't forget like EA he cut a lot of studios that had built up an good reputation during when Cendent (Sierra among them). The dislike never stopped but at least he stopped opening his mouth about how he was milking us for every penny. That was pretty bad PR for the gamer side.

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Bobby Kotick net worth and salary: Bobby Kotick is an American businessman who has a net worth of $7 billion. Bobby Kotick is most notable for being the CEO of Activision Blizzard, a position he has held since 1983. As of this writing, Kotick owns 175 million shares of Activision.

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Kotick is often a controversial figure in the video game world, being seen as not caring about the video game playing consumers and more about the bottom line for corporate profits. Still, it's hard to argue with success, and Kotick is one of the most successful people to ever be in the business of video games.
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yes, they're definitely awesome at doing business, and kept WoW alive/made wow a thing.

i'm sure "his friends call him robby psychotic" though those dirty old white dudes throw the BEST yacht parties.

Bob is only the work persona.

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Truth is most gaming company CEO's are pretty bad people (that makes them good business people), such as Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford. Most of the good ones don't last very long, look at Phil Harrison (Sony PS3/Atari/Microsoft Xbox/Google Stadia Now). All those company's weren't very successful during his time as CEO but he did really invest in first party game studios and new IP's (though most weren't financial success). Some of those titles would never have sequels made with there sales figures though I enjoyed playing through games like Resistance, Killzone series. I got more fun out of Resistance and Killzone MP mode than I did out of COD and I suck at FPS. It was fun using resistance crazy guns in MP and just wrecking havoc with random support class (engineer/scout) in Killzone 2.

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You can pretty much boycott any AAA developer at this point. They've all gone full corporate scum mode, at least 10 years ago. I don't think there's any big dev or publisher that I still like. All the big ones seem to have just... gone full retard in their slavering and crazed desperation for more money.

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