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[Various] [Update 2] Bethesda’s ‘Fallout 1st’ Paid Server Launch Has Become a Disaster

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There are problems with purchasing Fallout 1st in the Atomic Shop, problems using items that are awarded as part of the Fallout 1st Package, and issues with the new Scrapbox — that’s the bottomless storage introduced for private server owners — “eating” all the scrap you put in it. There are multiple reports of the contents of the Scrapbox being lost upon the next login, especially if a player changes game modes. There are problems with scrap not being shared among Fallout 1st players even when it should be.
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There are issues with matchmaking as well. While private servers are supposed to be for you and seven of your closest friends, currently anyone who you have on your friends list can join a private game. If you actually planned to play with seven specific people, you might not be able to if someone jumps into your game session first. The “new” worlds created on private servers don’t even appear to be new. The bug list speculates that these new worlds aren’t new at all, but instead represent re-allocated old server instances.

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And as to private worlds’ privacy, “we understand this is not what players expected for their Private Worlds,” Bethesda said, meaning that anyone in a friends list may join a private world without invitation. “We are looking to provide an option in an upcoming patch that will allow Fallout 1st members to restrict access to their servers more completely.”

Update, 11:40 p.m.: Bethesda Game Studios has continued to investigate the Scrap Box issue and now acknowledges it is more than a menu display problem for a small number of users.

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Update 1 (Nov 1st):


You want more dumpster fire? Of course you do, this is a Fallout 76 thread! (NSFW language in the video)





Edit: But wait! There is more! The Halloween event is broken too (jump to 6:53):





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Update 2 (Nov 9th):



You want more Bethesda clownery? Of course you do, this is the live service of tomfoolery and buffoonery (NSFW language):





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It's like they keep trying to put the triangle in the square hole and don't understand why it doesn't work.

I'll always appreciate Bethesda for titles like Morrowind (despite it being full of bugs, but at least they were funny) but they've really gone down the drains recently.


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Why not just make a off-line mode for the game? You can't get much more private than that.
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Why not just make a off-line mode for the game? You can't get much more private than that.

Because they can't monetize you even further in the Atomic Shop that way. Angry Joe (second video in the OP) talks about how even the monthly allowance they give you if you subscribe to Fallout 1st isn't quite enough to buy some items in the shop, so they're banking on people's impatience to not wait two months and just put up the remaining money needed to get a blue armour for example. It's milking all over the place, even after you bought the base $60 game and now the $12.99/ month or $99/year service.

The whole concept of Fallout 76 is Bethesda jumping on the live service bandwagon no matter the cost to ravage people's wallets for years on end and especially get that awesome "whale" money, with as little effort or care as possible, both in game and outside of it (canvas bag, beer bottle, leaking people's private information on-line, etc). It meant banking on one of their popular franchises to shoehorn a rent model into, no matter how nonsensical it was from the start. The result is the succession of disasters and lies that's on display for everybody to see. It's patently obvious by now that they don't care about anything but money and even the biggest fans who were on denial are starting to realize it.



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Just when I think they can't make it worse, they make it worse. Not to mention the subscription price is the same as iRacing, which is infamous in the sim racing community for being very expensive. But at least with iRacing, you get the services they say.

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There is one pernicious thing happening here: Fallout 76 is so bad, almost on purpose, that a bunch of people in the tech media are making favourable comparisons to game passes and recommending them instead. In the end it's comparing an evil against a lesser evil, isn't it? You don't get to keep any of it, it's all in the realm of live services.

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Is it the game industry mirroring the hardware industry or is the hardware industry mirroring the game industry?

People excuse high prices and shenanigans with it's still one of the "cheapest hobbies".

I ask you, in this day and age, who would want to buy lower end video cards priced at higher tiers, to play dumbed down/wallet violators like live service games?

It's over, this hobby is a horror show and to avoid a knife in your back, don't entertain this movie!

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Is it the game industry mirroring the hardware industry or is the hardware industry mirroring the game industry?

People excuse high prices and shenanigans with it's still one of the "cheapest hobbies".

I ask you, in this day and age, who would want to buy a low end video card priced at a higher tier, to play dumbed down/wallet violators like live service games?

It's over, this hobby is a horror show and to avoid a knife in your back, don't entertain this movie!

It's pretty bad, with plenty of triple-A game developers reaching the end of the greed and cynicism scale, but it's not the end of the story. If anything, it made me change my habits over the years. I went from old school gaming where there were no game clients, to seeing what Steam was all about and enjoy it for a moment in time and then see it slowly devolve into a hat factory that robbed Valve of its aura of game developer and unfortunately spilled over to other developers who now imbue their ecosystem with micro transaction philosophy from top to bottom, to switching over to GOG and almost never looking back. The last game I bought on Steam was Doom (2016). And I make it a principle to download everything from GOG without the optional game client, I only do the off-line backup install downloads, it's the only way to ensure that DRM-free stays as more than just an ideal without practical consequence.

As to hardware, it's never been better (overall speaking) now with AMD on the CPU scene. The other day I was checking prices, and even the Ryzen 7 2700 is now below 180 € and you can buy a first gen Ryzen 5 1600 for ~ 100 €, a second gen 2600 for ~140 € and heck, a quad core Ryzen 3 1200 for an unbelievable ~ 50 €. You can build a pretty good system right now. With SLI and CrossFire dead, the end result in the price of a high end gaming rig compared to ten years ago is actually not that different, it's still thousands of dollars / euros for a complete super enthusiast gaming rig. That's not to say that the prices on GPUs are ideal right now, they absolutely aren't, hence why I'm skipping all the 12nm / 7nm gens. I'm also hoping that next gens will come with AV1 hardware acceleration. I sure hope that GPU makers capitalize on the cost reductions of using 7nm EUV and return GPU prices to some sanity.



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