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Quote: Originally Posted by Prophet4NO1 View Post
It is slow, ugly, DL servers suck (I can pull near my full 1Gbs from Steam as long as there are no big sales going, usually 100 Mbs on Origin), and I rally do not like the layout. And, my pettiest problem, no dark mode. I find dark mode easier on the eyes and easier to read. They may have added a dark mode at some point, but it has been a few years since I even installed Origin. These are my personal gripes. And mine alone.
Steam is king DRM. Orgin cannot compete with them and it seems like they gave up on the exclusivity. I'm not sure how I would transfer over my EA games onto Steam though.

Quote: Originally Posted by Paladin Goo View Post
It could be desperation - but let's be honest, not being on Steam isn't why BFV sales tanked. It was purely the politically correct nature of it, which alienated Battlefield fans. People voted with their wallets on that one. BF1 and BF4 did fairly well in sales and lots of people still play them.
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I agree. I don't like the politically correct nature of BFV. However, I'm still playing BFV.

I had no idea there were so many hard nosed historians playing BF. My guess for the low sales (well deserved) would be launching half a game as a complete one and using the live service as a promise to complete it later. We know how promises work with EA. This is the gaming industry, word gets around quick. I still dont consider the game complete after The Pacific maps.

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I have't played BFV in months, been filling most of my spare time with Borderlands 3 and before that I just was tired of incredibly broken one sided matches. You're either controlling all the points of the map or the enemy team is.

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BFV has been free to play for a few weekends in a row due to low sales. I've never seen that series go f2p after a single year of release. I smell desperation. The new Pacific content also drops next week. Removing origin as another barrier to NOT play EA makes sense. They're looking for a win at the end of the year and this may do it. I will gladly remove origin and reinstall BFV on steam.

can you without rebuying? or do you just mean using Steam's "Add-Non-Steam Game" ?

the latter just adds a link to launch BFV from within Steam, but if Origin isn't running and you try to launch BFV it will just automatically start Origin, no?

Doesn't really solve anything if you want to ditch Origin.

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Perhaps some of the answers surrounding EA's quest for numbers are to be found in current marketing trends associated with the gaming industry and its consumers (there's obviously been a lot of money to be made).

Anyway, some might find the following limited study of interest:

Concerning gamer identity: An examination of individual factors associated with accepting the label of gamer
by William T. Howe, Dalaki Jym Livingston, and Sun Kyong Lee

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This study examined characteristics of players that self-identified as gamers. Participants (N=476) were asked to complete an online survey and provide information about their video game play. Analyses of the survey responses found support for gamers being younger, men, and playing more. We also found that some of the genres of play and technology used diverged from previous research. The two most surprising findings were that gamers preferred to play on consoles more than on computers, and massive-multiplayer online games were not the most played genre. This paper contributed to research in three ways: previous assumptions surrounding gamer identity and demographics were tested, the genre of games and method of play were examined to refine the definition of a gamer, and the implications of gamer identity were discussed.

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Recently there has been an outcry against Electronic Arts’ (EA) Battlefield V’s new trailer for featuring too many female characters. The hashtag #NotMyBattlefield was trending on Twitter and many gamers were asking for change (Buckley, 2018). This study sought to identify factors that corresponded with an individual’s desire to identify as a gamer. The findings and implications of this study may help understand why some individuals felt EA was wrong to release such a trailer as it did not align with traditional gamer identity. Video games provide unique communication situations and relational quandaries that create unique research opportunities. People who play video games are actively engaged in computer-mediated communication (CMC) that can move beyond geographical borders, social strata, and nationality (Hiltz and Turoff, 1978; Kaplan and Haenlein, 2010). Video games also provide a means of communication between players and non-players. Whether facilitated within the game, or discussed outside the game itself, communication about video games is as varied as the types of games played. Because of the impact of video games, understanding who has access to these technological resources and what affordances they provide would be worthwhile. In this paper we examine what demographic, genre preferences, and technological devices used are associated with individuals that self-identify as gamers.

From lengthy role-playing adventure games to battling in a first-person shooter, the label ‘gamer’ is often used. Sometimes this term is used in jest, or with pride, but other times with stigmatizing intent. We seek to understand associations of gameplay and gamer label acceptance. Accepting, or identifying with, the label of a gamer is timely due to recent increases in video game production and consumption. In this paper we provide an overview of literature concerning video game use, gamer identity, and social identity theory. This research contributes to game research in three ways. First, we test previous assumptions surrounding gamer identity and demographics. Second, we examine the genre of games and method of play to further understand gamer identity. Finally, we discuss the implications of the changing, as well as unchanging, aspects of gamer identity.

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I use steam and only steam. So if they want me to buy their games they have to put them on steam. Games shouldn't be exclusive to one launcher.
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Sure it isn't just a statement that the company is a steaming mug of sh**?

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Loot boxes have been banned in Belgium and the Netherlands and many other places like the UK are either looking at or moving towards a ban which means that most of EA´s income will be gone
Getting back on Steam is one way to get some of that lost income back

Loot boxes should be a getting a gobal ban if people want to gamble do it a casino
As for EA itself its still one of the worst companies in the world and if they lose money it wont be sad

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As for EA itself its still one of the worst companies in the world and if they lose money it wont be sad
I'm not even an EA fan but some of this is just silly. Yea, I'm sure EA ranks up with the diamond companies in Africa.


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Let me rephrase that then one of the worst game publisher / developer and i am sure there are diamond companies in Africa that are better by the way
Only one i can think of that is just as bad if not worse is Konami and Bethesda is trying very hard to match EA with Fallout 76 right now

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I'm not even an EA fan but some of this is just silly. Yea, I'm sure EA ranks up with the diamond companies in Africa.

I havent had this experience yet on origin, but i have on battle.net, where my game code wasnt recognized. Even though it had initially did to where the game was fully installed and yet somehow I was told it was already redeem when i tried to play it. Its only been my 2nd game for the launcher. It was a given code with a card i purchased so i wasnt too peeved, but i can imagine i'd be livid if i had purchased it. I would guess this isnt a common or even an uncommon occurrence, but the fact it even happened will be the last time i buy anything battle.net related.

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Loot boxes have been banned in Belgium and the Netherlands and many other places like the UK are either looking at or moving towards a ban which means that most of EA´s income will be gone
Getting back on Steam is one way to get some of that lost income back

Loot boxes should be a getting a gobal ban if people want to gamble do it a casino
As for EA itself its still one of the worst companies in the world and if they lose money it wont be sad
How are loot boxes really much different than trading cards. People do this same stuff with Pokemon cards to get the rare ones. I guess it just got more attention but I don't really see a difference.

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