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post #101 of 106 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 04:59 AM
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The devs did update how the anticheat works a bit. You can now manually shutdown the app when not playing. Wowwie. Severs are going up for other countries, so the closed beta will be bigger. I expect this game to launch *soon.

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post #102 of 106 (permalink) Old 05-06-2020, 05:06 AM
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Sounds like this kernel driver will have lots of fun with win-10 security.

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Sure there's probably quite a few hackers on public servers but who cares about pubs, lol... When I played CS competitively there was CAL/CPL and ESEA. The latter is still around to this day IIRC and requires a client to run in the background. That client acts as an anti-cheat and as a way to log-in to ESEA servers. Let me tell you - I rarely encountered a hacker during competitive play while on ESEA. If they were hacking it wasn't for long and their steamID/WONID was banned in the process.




But yeah the general consensus is that F2P games will always be a cesspit.
You are correct that ESEA is still around, it is used by a lot of CSGO PRO's and high ranked CSGO players for matchmaking other than the normal one valve provided. Even with ESEA, I still think hackers in CSGO get handled by Valve pretty damn well, is it perfect? Do they get every one? Probably not but then again they dont have a very intrusive Anti-Cheat.

Its a shame really because I do like Valorant and have fun playing it, I think its a very good game. Just wish they could tone down the Anti-Cheat, like right now simple applications like MSI Afterburner, CPUz, HWInfo, all of those according to Riot have "vulnerable" drivers so they auto block them. Its like they think they are an Anti-Virus not just an Anti-Cheat.

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You are correct that ESEA is still around, it is used by a lot of CSGO PRO's and high ranked CSGO players for matchmaking other than the normal one valve provided. Even with ESEA, I still think hackers in CSGO get handled by Valve pretty damn well, is it perfect? Do they get every one? Probably not but then again they dont have a very intrusive Anti-Cheat.

Its a shame really because I do like Valorant and have fun playing it, I think its a very good game. Just wish they could tone down the Anti-Cheat, like right now simple applications like MSI Afterburner, CPUz, HWInfo, all of those according to Riot have "vulnerable" drivers so they auto block them. Its like they think they are an Anti-Virus not just an Anti-Cheat.
VAC literally does nothing against modern cheats, so I'm not sure it's true to say that it handles them well. Hell cheat devs even make April fools posts about Valve actually adding a kernel mode component because realistically it's the only way any of the competently written stuff could be detected.

Also PUBG's anti-cheat utilises kernal mode drivers and I can't remember anybody making a fuss over it, is it because Riot advertised this aspect so heavily that it's become a thing for Valorant?

In regard to CPU-Z Riot's handling was dumb. The CPU-Z driver had an exploit that was actively being used to cheat in games, so they should have just stopped people playing whilst the driver is running (with feedback explaining why) rather than stopping the driver from loading. I think perhaps they didn't anticipate that in some instances it would stop fan controllers from functioning correctly.

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is pugb affiliated with tencent & the CCP?

honestly... you likely just missed the complaining.

I see this on the internet often. Things can exist outside of your awareness

every game to do this gets hate. This one gets more cuz TenCent.

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honestly... you likely just missed the complaining.

I see this on the internet often. Things can exist outside of your awareness

every game to do this gets hate. This one gets more cuz TenCent.
True, but a driver designed for anti-cheat and the associated user mode components are a pretty ****ty place to put code for data exfiltration.

By putting it there you're essentially guaranteeing people will be reverse engineering it to see how it works.

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