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Win X DVD ripper

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Just been using the Win X DVD ripper to preserve the original DVD's - For this I'm currently using the Intel i7 4790 K 4 core / 8 threads. Also used is a hybrid SSD by Seagate and also a Samsung EVO 850 SSD 250 GB to compare the two drives for speed.

It's good to be able to get the tasks done with some reasonable performance of say 180- 200 - 250 - 300 frames per second on a reasonable quality conversion with integrated graphics from the 4790 K via Intel HD 4600.

The DVD drive is Samsung writemaster presumably a 16x on read - 32x is best but are there any???

I've been reading it's possible for hardware acceleration via a GTX 1080 Ti which was a new feature added last year.

I did buy a GTX 1080 for a gaming machine that is yet to be built (not priority) but it is not the Ti version - Is it possible to get the hardware acceleration via GTX 1080 or GTX 1070 for the DVD conversions? - or is it just the top of the tree 1080 Ti that has this feature.

Any useful info for a rolling conversation on this appreciated.

PS - I see in Win X DVD ripper there are options for Intel and nVidia acceleration so I presume the software is optimized and written with these two companies in mind (eg not AMD) - ??? - Any thoughts please mention - I'm no expert on this but am getting on with getting the jobs done

Also out of interest is DVD ripping much like gaming where fewer faster cores are better or would a 10 core blast it out of the park?
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Hello,

Well no replies - what a surprise ! - I've heard back from DigiArty the creators of Win X DVD ripper and the GTX 1080 does support hardware acceleration as I was concerned that only the GTX 1080 Ti would support hardware acceleration but this I don't have.

There must be some here who have done this to preserve their collections - Please speak up
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Not really a software id suspect many people here would use. When there are free open source ones.

Any modern Nvidia GPU will have NVEC if thats what they are using for hardware acceleration. Or if they are using Cuda then even older ones.
You really need to find out from the creators how well threaded there software is to see if more cores are better.


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Hi,

They mentioned in reply that 8 cores is the maximum - The 4 core I'm using is doing quite well to be honest. Yes I've heard of CUDA, is this an older technology?

Would the GTX 1080 have CUDA or is this too old and been replaced by something else?

The NVEC you mention, I've read somewhere on the Win X website similar wording but to be truthful this is new to me.

With many DVD's to get through I'll probably learn lots so forgive the pun but let it rip!!!

I'm getting 230 FPS as we speak with HD 4600 4790K 32 GB RAM - I'm not sure how important system RAM is in this. With GPU acceleration, would this be minimal or more substantial? - Any idea?

You mention freeware, which are the main titles people here would use?
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Hi,

It is CUDA cores for the GTX 1080, I've looked at the specification and seen this as 2560 - is this the number of CUDA cores?

I got this card to play games when all the work is done which will be er not yet !! ha ha - But if this card also comes in handy for DVD ripping then this is another use but not the reason for purchase.

I can't believe the price of these things - A GTX 1080 Ti is over £1,000 er what, say again ! - Anyhow it is CUDA cores
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Personally Id use handbrake for my DVD ripping and transcoding to H264. Id probably pack it as a MKV so I can have subs and extra content still included in the video file.

CUDA cores are basically like the CPU cores. Can be used for genural compute tasks, Been on Nvidia cards for last 10 years. (higher tier cards having more cores), But having a quick look on WinX website they dont use them.
NVEC is a hardware video encoder built into newer nvidia video cards. Does a very good job of converting vidoes to H264 while taking the load away from the CPU. This is what they use.

Id say the slowest bit of your task is going to be the ripping from the disk onto your computer. I dont know if things have changed much since I converted my library few years ago but back then the ripping from the disk is the part you didnt want any errors happening so faster wasnt better, My drive does 24X but 16X was the better speed to use especilly on disks that had a few scratches.


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Hi thanks for reply.

So Win X doesn't use CUDA cores - thats disappointing - I saw CUDA in the spec sheet of the GTX 1080 - But you say Win X uses HVEC that GTX 1080 does not have or can't use. I'm a novice on this particular issue.

I came here to mention that I battled through the Windows 10 Fall Update Creators of 2017 - But it's done - The GTX is installed for a trial run as I was keen to see hardware acceleration in motion.

I can mention that I have not seen any hardware acceleration and you mentioned the CUDA cores are not used which means I cannot get hardware acceleration - this is correct???

Before installing the GTX 1080 for trial run and battling Windows 10 updates I did rip a great many DVD's within 2-3 days just using the i7 4790K with Intel HD4600 - I know about this -And the speed was more than good enough.

I found Win X and just decided to try it and so far it is doing a job for me - I dare say I can try something else out another time but I don't know enough about this and have just dived in to get something done !!! -

Please just confirm I cannot get hardware acceleration of the GTX 1080 - if I've understood this correctly - the CUDA cores of which the GTX 1080 has 2560 (big number) cannot be used because Win X does not use them.

I suppose using the GPU will ease some strain on the HD4600 - btw the HD4600 is more than good enough for this task.

FPS numbers were around 230 FPS sometimes as high as 280 and even on occasion 340 - sometimes at 180 - But averaged out around 200+ - And converting H264 into MP4 with normal quality in around 23 minutes - 3 hours worth - Thanks and look forward to more feedback - thanks

btw my GTX 1080 is around a year old - STRIX model Asus - I've not seen HVEC but have seen CUDA
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It seems that the 4790 K (4th gen i7) won't support HVEC or HEVC but 6th GEN will (6700k) - such is life!
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NVENC is HEVC.
GTX 1080 has NVENC on it so you should be able to use that.


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Quote: Originally Posted by bmgjet View Post
NVENC is HEVC.
GTX 1080 has NVENC on it so you should be able to use that.
Yes OK - But I did read someone commented on 4790 K not being able to use NVENC?

I packed the GTX 1080 away after the test run - and ran into a problem that other do too - The little clip breaks off when removing GPU - Well too bad

Maybe the GTX 1080 was a little quicker than HD4600 with 4790K but I couldn't tell as it wasn't night and day - The 8700 K should be interesting for ripping DVD's but I'm just plodding through the DVD's nice and steady

What CPU / speeds FPS do you get?
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