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Amd htpc

Hi,
I am planning to build pc for movies, and that "media" stuff, but i want to play and 4k in 60Hz
My question is, will the amd athlon 3000g be enough for that, it says that supports hdmi 2.0, so that is good.
Problem is motherboard, what to buy, it needs to be mATX, but most of them have support for hdmi 1.4, so that can play 4k only 30Hz.
Is it worth pay some more money for hdmi 2.0 support, or should I just go with some mbo that have 1.4 hdmi version.
And do you have some advice that I maybe need to look about building htpc.?
And I would like to buy m.2 ssd, but do I need to look is it nvme or?
And ofcourse, I look to go as cheap as possible, around 100€ for mbo and ssd?
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Are these available in your country?

CPU

https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Compat...NHFAARQJSRKNR4

Motherboard

https://www.amazon.com/AMD-4-Thread-...5G8Q0MQHDHACB4

EDIT: If you read one of the comments in the CPU, it does indeed support 4K 60Hz out the motherboard I/O.

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Yes, they are...
But, isn't 3000g better option?
It's almost the same price so because of that I picket it..

And mbo have support for 3840x2160 at 30Hz only.. will that be good?
And if I buy that 200ge maybe, there won't be problem with playing 4k media?
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I have a AMD 2400G and an Asus x470-i (mitx) board that I was using as an HTPC up until recently when I got a Shield TV. If your plans are to do any sort of Netflix 4k/HDR anything, you better make sure that the integrated graphics support PlayReady 3.0 (Netflix DRM). Otherwise you will only be streaming in 1080p. The Vega's didn't have that ability so it forced me to purchase an additional graphics card (RX560 4GB).

If you aren't planning on streaming from the box, then the integrated graphics should be fine. If you are like me and lock the framerate of your monitor to the media that is being played... 4K/60 will almost never come up (unless you count that new Will Smith movie, which IMO is a huge case against high frame rate movies). Most movies and shows are at 23/24 FPS (NTSC). However with that said, if you are doing any desktop stuff on this HTPC, like web / file browsing or any light gaming, you will want that 60Hz.

Anyways, back to on point. If you want HDMI 2.0 there are plenty of options:

https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-b45...82E16813119174
https://www.newegg.ca/p/2MG-000B-00240
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-b45...82E16813119137
https://www.newegg.ca/asus-prime-b55...82E16813119317

These are all Asus recommendations as they are my go to for motherboards. I have used them for almost all of my builds and I am comfortable recommending them. However with that said, I would find it hard to believe you can't as easily find a HDMI 2.0b board in the brand of your choosing that supports the CPU you want to use.

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Hmm I will surf on it a little...
For netflix, I have app on tv so, I dont need it on pc..
Just kodi or something for movies

And those mbo are over the budget so...

I found this, is this good like a320?
It is only 30hz for 4k but maybe it will be good.. the more I search, the hardest it get to choose

https://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M...#Specification
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What's your over all budget? Maybe you might be better off like myself and getting a Shield TV (Or Shield Pro if you wanna be fancy). It will do 4k /60 playback flawlessly. The TV model is $199 CAD.

You can even stream your games from your PC to the Shield and it is actually not bad for the most part. Highly recommend. Also, if you have other family, significant other, roommate who will also be using the TV / HTPC to view media and they aren't that technical, the Shield TV will be much better experience. Especially if you have no other use for this computer other than media viewing.

Just my two cents.

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Hmm I have around 170€ for mbo, cpu and ram.. it would be great to get an m.2 ssd in that price, but it's no problem, if it can't fit in that price...
For cpu I will go 100% with athlon 3000g, it's a little bit better than 200ge, and it's almost the same price
For mbo I found gigabyte b450m ds3h so if that is a good choice, I will buy it then...
I just need some m.2 ssd to be compatible for that board..
I can choose between kingston a400 m.2 120gb, and maybe wd green m.2 120gb..
I don't need more, because only windows and few other programs will be installed

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...H-rev-10/sp#sp
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Hmm I have around 170€ for mbo, cpu and ram.. it would be great to get an m.2 ssd in that price, but it's no problem, if it can't fit in that price...
For cpu I will go 100% with athlon 3000g, it's a little bit better than 200ge, and it's almost the same price
For mbo I found gigabyte b450m ds3h so if that is a good choice, I will buy it then...
I just need some m.2 ssd to be compatible for that board..
I can choose between kingston a400 m.2 120gb, and maybe wd green m.2 120gb..
I don't need more, because only windows and few other programs will be installed

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...H-rev-10/sp#sp
How much more is this?

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-3-3200g

It is 4 cores and 8 threads plus Vega 8. It also comes with a cooler.

EDIT: BTW, that board will allow for an upgrade.

https://www.techpowerup.com/268579/a...0g-benchmarked

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That board looks like it will do the trick. If it fits your budget, go for it!

Just want to again mention the Shield TV (https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/), it will be cheaper and give you a much more "turn key" solution for media consumption. But if you have some other plans for the HTPC besides media playback, then by all means disregard.

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Tnx for suggesting shield, but it's little bit too much in price, and I will maybe put 1 or 2 hdd's in this pc one day, to access to them over network so....
And that ryzen is almost the double in price over 200ge and 3000g.
I think I will go with that gigabyte B450M DS3H, and athlon 3000g... So that I don't regret later about the board.
And just, can you maybe recommend some ssd that can go on that board, I would like to get M.2 so that I have as little cables as possible, and for ram I will go with some kingston or crucial 2400 or 2666Mhz, it will be good..
And than the, case I was thinking about some SilverStone. It is a bit expensive, but once I buy it, I wouldn't change it anymore...
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