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post #1 of 165 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 07:39 PM - Thread Starter
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I finally got tired of wondering which is better so I just ordered a Corsair H100 and 2 Scythe UK 3000s. Watch this space for comparisons between it, Phanteks PH-TC14PE and Silver Arrow SB-E.
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post #2 of 165 (permalink) Old 05-21-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Nice I am curious to know myself. I had a zalman cnpsx10 and it would hands down beat my h60 at idle and full load but noise was the reason i downgraded to a h60. I am one of the lucky few who has completely silent hydro series cooler. I also went with a closed loop because a monster air cooler looks terrible in my case hiding all my nice components. biggrin.gif
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I agree that the closed loop set up looks a lot better. I can't wait to test it out. It'll look great in my 800DW

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I was running a Ven-X, and switched to an h100. The performance difference isn't huge, but the extra space in my case and not worrying about that Goliath pulling down on my motherboard was well worth it.

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I tell you what i had a H60 cooler and my Cooler Master v8 does much better job then that H60 some how the H60 would not seat right on Cpu was getting like high 60-70 Celsius for temps now down to high 20's to very low's 30 ' Celsius so very Happy with Air cool could not understand this WATER COOL ANY WAY in A case with the Heat generated from Motherboard,Hard drive, graphic card and Cpu i figure it's not enough room to cool off in that small space this is my tought any way i swear by my cooler Master .Ray

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There are any number of HSF vs. CLC tests showing that highend HSFs are superior, cheaper, quieter compared to CLCs and HSFs don't leak water and damage PC hardware like CLCs can.

If you have room for a highend HSF, on technical merit that is the best choice for most PC users. I suggest people educate themselves on the Pros and Cons of each type of cooling and then Buy What Makes YOU Happy!

http://www.anandtech.com/print/5054

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/h50-fort120-cogage,2401.html

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2665&page=7

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2665&page=6

As an example testing has shown the Xigmatek Aegir SD128264 is extremely quiet (only requires one fan but you can install a second one if desired) and capable up to 345w so there is no technical merit in a CLC for most people but people will try to sway you in one direction or the other. The Mugen 3 should also be fine with a second fan if you're running real high OC's and CPU voltage.

http://www.thelab.gr/heatsinks-coolers-watercooling-reviews/cpu-cooler-review-database-89014.html

Contrary to the FUD some people like to post, no one is having issues with the weight of the highend HSFs and mobos. If you prefer a CLC then that's what you should buy. Attempts at twisting the truth or posting FUD doesn't change the test results. Buy What Makes you Happy but don't post misleading info. as this is a disservice to other forum members.
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h100 will beat TR SA SB-E with stock fan @full, 2x scythe UK3k are a total overkill of noise/performance, more noise than performance xD
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