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Another review coming up aces!
Within a few degrees of the best (Silver Arrow IB-E)
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Wow! It's extremely quiet! 36.6dBA compared to SA IB-E at 41.3dBA
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Thanks Doyll, I'll have to do some research tomorrow (to make sure it fits my system, pretty sure it will) but that seems like a great replacement for my evo.
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Define R4 specs 170mm CPU clearance but that's probably conservative. My R2 spec is "circa 165mm and TC14PE fits no problem. Worst case the tip0s of pipes will rub on sound mat on inside of side cover.

Found this Amazon.de review of TS140 in Define R4
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This review is from: Thermalright True Spirit 140 CPU Cooler for Socket 775/1155/1366/AM2/AM3/FM1 (accessory)
It has already been written here as well as everything about the product. Here are my comments about the device: The cooler has a very good cooling performance (my AMD Phenom II X4 3.4 it cools in the IDLE down to room temperature (28 ° C) sub-let the temperature rises no higher than 37 ° C. My housing. : Fractal Design Define R4) The installation is easy, until you get to the fan. This secure it with the supplied brackets to the cooling block is a true torment I would recommend this to fasten only on both sides of the upper hooks of the brackets, then the bottom. If an attempt is only on one side of the bracket completely secure, slip the whole thing and you quickly lose the nerves.

Furthermore: The imaginary for decoupling, enclosed rubber pads between the cooling block and the fan are subsequently not where the fans really rests, head to your in the instruction sheet. I've completely removed, trimmed and repositioned (left and right, at the edge of the cooling block). The fan itself may be on the rotor blades poorly deburred was the case at least for me, I have also processed again with a file.

Overall, the fan most of the time PWM Controlled running with me at about 550 RPM. Thus it is not audible to me. For the price a good acquisition.

Edit December 2013: Have now an AMD FX 8350 Octa-Core processor running under this cooler. With Arctic Cooling MX2 thermal paste even this does not get hotter than 50 ° C, with three case fans (2x 120mm 1x140mm) in the unchanged Case (fractal R4) provide for passage.
You will need 70mm clearance from center of CPU to PCI-E socket, but that shouldn't be a problem.

I always do a "practice" mounting before applying TIM just to familiarize myself with any potential problems. Only takes a couple minutes and alleviates the potential for poor TIM seat.

A good magnetic tip on screwdriver eases the installation of mounting screws.

Mounting fans is a PITA. Practice mounting them a few times before install and be sure to install fan clips on cooler before installing cooler.

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I recently used the last of my IC diamond, what TIM do you recommend to use?
Antec formula 7 is as good(if not better) as the IC7,other tims are gelid gc extreme or xigmatek freezing point



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I recently used the last of my IC diamond, what TIM do you recommend to use?
I've heard both good and bad about IC Diamond.

TRUE Spirit 140 Power comes with Chill Factor III.

I bought several tubes of Thermalright's Chill Factor III so will be using them for awhile. As it's want I've been using for testing It's hard to change. redface.gif Before that it was Phanteks PH-NDC and Arctic MX-4.

If I was starting fresh it would be a hard choice.. GELID's GC-Extreme or Prolimatech's PK-3. Both are easy to use and give very good results.

There are several very good thermal pastes out there. All within a degree or two.
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/thermal-compound-charts/-5-CPU-Air-Cooling-Low-Pressure,3365.html
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I've heard both good and bad about IC Diamond.

I bought several tubes of Thermalright's Chill Factor III so will be using them for awhile. As it's want I've been using for testing It's hard to change. redface.gif Before that it was Phanteks PH-NDC and Arctic MX-4.

If I was starting fresh it would be a hard choice.. GELID's GC-Extreme or Prolimatech's PK-3. Both are easy to use and give very good results.

Gelid. I love it. It has no cure time and the tube you get for $12 is good for like 20+ applications.

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Was doing some calculations for heat pipe area and fin contact area.
TRUE Spirit 140 Power has 6x 8mm pipes compared to normal TRUE Spirit 140 having 6x 6mm pipes.
That is 33% more heat pipe surface area contacting each fin.
TS140 has 50 fins and TS140P has 46.
That is 8% less fins.
8% less fins gives us 29% more heat pipe to fin contact area transmitting heat from pipes to fins and into air.

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Thanks.

I was wondering how efficiently the heat pipe to surface area translates to the CPU temperature decrease. Is there any formula about this in general, not specifically related to the TS140P?

Does it also depends a lot on the architecture of the rad (single/dual tower, fins airflow orientation, flat base, etc..)?

I see it as a Logit curve. I guess there is a point where the increase of surface area does not provide any decrease in temps.



(where Y=CPU temp and X=heat pipe to surface area).

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