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Thanks Doyll, yeah not sure about mobo since they aren't out yet out of interest are there many full size boards the TS140 Power blocks the top 16x slot?

I think the TS140 Direct could've been improved slightly (since it uses the fixed plate mount) if they added an additional fin stack directly on top the base plate like Scythe do, it would take a ~ 40mm² unit.

With no standard as to where CPU socket is placed I don't even want to guess about CPU socket to PCIe socket spacing is. PCIe placement is standardized, and keeping in mind many mobos have moved primary 16x socket to 2nd from CPU now there is less cooler clearance problems.

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Found an AM4 ready universal true btk kit from amazon.de https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00UN05Q6A?...302_E_DDE_dt_1 cost ~£14 including postage. The top plate has the dimple in like the older coolers had so doesn't fit without grinding flush but one can just use the existing plate.

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Found an AM4 ready universal true btk kit from amazon.de https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00UN05Q6A?...302_E_DDE_dt_1 cost ~£14 including postage. The top plate has the dimple in like the older coolers had so doesn't fit without grinding flush but one can just use the existing plate.
That mount is for thick based cooler like old Ultra series (TRUE) /IFX-14/HR-01/Ultima-90, etc. It is for their thick bases, not for newer thinner based coolers.

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That mount is for thick based cooler like old Ultra series (TRUE) /IFX-14/HR-01/Ultima-90, etc. It is for their thick bases, not for newer thinner based coolers.
It's the same, only difference is a mylar film layer, all the standoffs and plates are the same, I have a TS140 BW mounted on it as we speak on a Ryzen 2600

Edit: Oh you mean the top plate with the dimple, right I see that now looking at it as it has a much deeper form.

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Thanks Doyll, yeah not sure about mobo since they aren't out yet out of interest are there many full size boards the TS140 Power blocks the top 16x slot?

I think the TS140 Direct could've been improved slightly (since it uses the fixed plate mount) if they added an additional fin stack directly on top the base plate like Scythe do, it would take a ~ 40mm² unit.
TS140 Power is a different tier of cooler vs TS 140 direct.

It's the similar to difference between a NH-U12A with 7 heatpipes and NH-U12S with 5 heatpipes (not NH-U14S with 6 heatpipes)

I think TS140 Direct was somewhat a regression from TS140 BW RevA (http://www.thermalright.de/en/archiv...bw-rev.-a?c=16)

It's clear they tried to save cost by staggering heatpipes (the one in the middle of the two rows was removed) as Noctua does but also using a direct contact heatpipe (the flattening of the heatpipe reduces the heat capacity).

TS140 Power is AM4 ready if you have a recently made one within the past year or two. I have mine on R7 2700X

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If you want a narrow tower cooler you want the Power. It's all about the heatpipes. It's also not always well compatible with cases due to height. Or well available. Due to this other TR coolers are more popular.
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If you need any AM4 mounts, these guys are one of the main distributor for Germany and seem to have all the mounting kits in stock:

https://www.pc-cooling.de/luftkuehlu...estigungskits/
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If you need any AM4 mounts, these guys are one of the main distributor for Germany and seem to have all the mounting kits in stock:

https://www.pc-cooling.de/luftkuehlu...estigungskits/
Good source for mounts! Thanks for the link. Probably won't need it but nice to have in case I do.

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TS140 Power is a different tier of cooler vs TS 140 direct.

It's the similar to difference between a NH-U12A with 7 heatpipes and NH-U12S with 5 heatpipes (not NH-U14S with 6 heatpipes)

I think TS140 Direct was somewhat a regression from TS140 BW RevA (http://www.thermalright.de/en/archiv...bw-rev.-a?c=16)

It's clear they tried to save cost by staggering heatpipes (the one in the middle of the two rows was removed) as Noctua does but also using a direct contact heatpipe (the flattening of the heatpipe reduces the heat capacity).

TS140 Power is AM4 ready if you have a recently made one within the past year or two. I have mine on R7 2700X
I ended up getting a s/hand TS140 BW for £20 and that bracket from amazon for <£14. Not quite the same performance with high tdp loads as the power but not a million miles away and saved me ~£16. I already had a few TY-147A's left (grabbed 10 a good few years back when they were about £7 a piece) to swap for the higher idle RPM TY-147.

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Thought I'd jump in this thread, as I'm waiting on a 3900X to arrive, and also ordered (after a couple days of considering specs/performance/price) the TS140P, along with a couple TY-143 fans. I'd considered the Macho RT and Noctua D15 as well, but prefer having more space. I'd been in the land of water-cooling for the past 9 years, lack the time to maintain it now, and am finally upgrading from a 2700K that's been under water and overclocked for a while. That returned me to air-cooling. I'd been using a Hyper 212 LED with 2x Vardar F4-120ER fans to cool a 2700X for the wife, and during Intel Burn Test, and stock speeds/voltages, it was hitting 66C and not going any higher. The fans are quite similar to the Gentle Typhoon fans, and run 2200 RPM. I find that they not only pushed through radiators better than standard case fans, but also seemed to do well with the Hyper, so I'll see how they perform compared to the stock fan, and TY-143 pair.

The mounting design from Thermalright doesn't exactly thrill me, but if it's solid, then I have no complaints. It's going in a "Cooler Masher" HAF XB Evo, which supposedly has enough room, though I've not read entirely through this thread to see if anyone else has confirmed the fit. The case fans are already those same EK Vardars, as they sound good to my ear, and move a reasonable amount of air.

It's kind of a homecoming, as I used an SLK-900 topped with a 92mm Vantec Tornado on an Athlon 2500+M back in the day, and saw that chip hit somewhere in the 2.6 Ghz range. I miss that heatsink, though it did sound something like a hair dryer.

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