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What is air temp into case vs into cooler with both CPU and GPU at full load?
I'm not completely sure, The room temp is between 65-70f but I don't have any measurements for anything else.

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I'm not completely sure, The room temp is between 65-70f but I don't have any measurements for anything else.
Below is link to how airflow works and how to optimize case airflow. Last bit is what I use to monitor case airflow into coolers.
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html

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I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?





Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.


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I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GSoaRsuke4

Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.

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I tried to find his test procedure but it appears he doesn't give it. Therefore assume video testing procedure is flawed. It does show testing is done in a case but I see nothing about how air temp is monitored during testing. Lots of time talking about a lots of things but nothing at all about how case airflow is setup or how testing is performed. Case appears to be a stock Define case and they have case fans that can't overcome the resistance of front grill and filter so case airflow is extremely low. Testing without air temp into cooler being logged at same time as CPU temp is taken have no base for accuracy because air temp changes as fan speeds change .. and every degree change in air temp is reflected with almost exactly the same change in CPU temp at same cooler fan speeds. Also not mentioned is TRUE Spirit 140 Power is rated for 360w TDP, almost twice what he claims test is. I've ran TRUE Spirit 140 Power on I7 920 @ 3.8GHz for years and we tested at 4.3GHz against NH-D14 which cools same as NH-D15 and it was consistanly cooler as you can see in below graph in post #22 this thread:

https://www.overclock.net/forum/22111036-post22.html


What you get is up to you. But whatever you get I suggest you take the time to read "How Airflow Works and How to Optimize Case Airflow" in link below:
https://www.overclock.net/forum/22319249-post5.html
Because if case airflow is not setup so cooler is using cool air (not air 10-20c warmer than room) your CPU temps will be 10-20c hotter than they should. Doesn't matter how good or how bad the cooler is if case airflow isn't setup properly.

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Quote: Originally Posted by tike Myson View Post
I was really interested in this cooler since its 14" and seems quiet, but it seems to be really bad in high OC situations according to this youtube review, any comments?

Or should I get eSports 34? I am running an 3570k @ 4.3g with 1.2v and am sick of noisy single slot water cooling. I want some silent pc until my next upgrade.


thanks
What cooler are you using now? TS 140 Power and Scythe Fuma 2 are probably best price/performance coolers right now at 50 and 60 dollars. I have both and Noctua D15 Chromax and they are all really good.

That review doesn't show fan speeds only db rating so no idea what speeds they are actually running fans at so it is hard to compare.

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Quote: Originally Posted by D-EJ915 View Post
What cooler are you using now? TS 140 Power and Scythe Fuma 2 are probably best price/performance coolers right now at 50 and 60 dollars. I have both and Noctua D15 Chromax and they are all really good.

That review doesn't show fan speeds only db rating so no idea what speeds they are actually running fans at so it is hard to compare.

I am currently running on CoolerMaster 120 AIO water setup , when idle, it's quiet, but its pretty annoying during load. (load temps around 70c)





Yeah, I found his reviews a bit fishy and I even found his earlier "rants" on previous posts here so I will take the results with grain of salt.


But its really hard to find any overall reviews of True Spirit , just some russian reviews but not comparing with others.




Thanks guys, I'll read more previous posts as my answers were probably answered somewhere before.
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Even without fan speeds that review's data is totally out of line. TRUE Spirit 140 Power perform similar to NH-D15. Well actually it performs slightly better than NH-D14 when we tested it with TY-143 fan/s at 1200rpm and 2500rpm, and ehume's comparison testing of NH-D14 against NH-D15 with same fans found D14 to similar to slightly better than D15. No idea what the problem is but there is something seriously wrong .. and any decent reviewer would have at the very least acknowledged something was wrong with results, be it a defective cooler, bad TIM seat, etc.
There are several reviews posted in this thread. If you skip through you will find them and links to view them.

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How is the ram clearance on this cooler? I am using AM4 on a b450 ITX Strix board. I have the Macho Rev B and always have ram issues. Even low profile vengence won't fit I had to mod the fan.

I have some Gskill tridentz that I can't use. Does the fan cover the ram or can you use whatever?

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How is the ram clearance on this cooler? I am using AM4 on a b450 ITX Strix board. I have the Macho Rev B and always have ram issues. Even low profile vengence won't fit I had to mod the fan.

I have some Gskill tridentz that I can't use. Does the fan cover the ram or can you use whatever?

According to the drawings I could find on thermalright.de, this TS140-Power here should have the exact same problem as what you have on your Macho-Rev-B. The drawings I looked at showed that on both coolers the base is 53 mm long. The front of the fin-stack then starts at the edge of that 53mm base on both coolers.
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According to the drawings I could find on thermalright.de, this TS140-Power here should have the exact same problem as what you have on your Macho-Rev-B. The drawings I looked at showed that on both coolers the base is 53 mm long. The front of the fin-stack then starts at the edge of that 53mm base on both coolers.
So what do people do with air coolers and ram these days? I guess I could put it in pull config, but these fans are pretty low speed. Seems like a pain of a problem.

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