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post #1831 of 1859 (permalink) Old 05-21-2020, 12:18 PM
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..unbelievable, where can I buy the TY-143SQ in US now I want to replace some old Phanteks case fans now... or any better options?
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..unbelievable, where can I buy the TY-143SQ in US now I want to replace some old Phanteks case fans now... or any better options?
I don't know. You can look for Cooljag Everflow F121425BUAF as it's basically same fan just slightly faster and all black. PugetSystems and frozencpu used to have them but both are now out of stock.

EVERFLOW F121425BUAF

Specifications
Dimension 140x140x25 mm (5.5 in)
Speed 600-2600 RPM
Air Flow 29.68-126.02 CFM
Air Pressure 0.29-5.22 mmH2O
Noise 20-43 dBa
Bearing Type Dual Ball Bearing


Thermalright TY-143 SQ
Specifications
Dimension 140x140x25 mm (5.5 in)
Speed 600-2500 RPM
Air Flow 29.54-123.05 CFM
Air Pressure 0.25-4.21 mmH2O
Noise 22-48 dBa
Bearing Type Dual Ball Bearing


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i7 980 @ 3.55GHz =PH-TC14PE w/2x TY-143 fans =Crucial Ballistix 3x4GB =GA-X58A-UD5 =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =Enermax Modu84+ =Define R2 w/3x TY-140 case intake fans; all PWM controlled by CPU fan socketPhanteks Enthoo Primo MoBo Rampage III Extreme CPUi7 980X
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I now get all fans I needed, but I lack extension and Y splitters to activate them all. My intention was to get it from Noctua, assuming quality will be good, but my dealer/shop is unable to get cables from them now.

All what they have about extensions and Y splitters are at this moment, is available from AKASA only. Now, I did search on internet and see that they have indeed extensions and splitters with similar looking. But I have zero expirience with them. Are their cables good quality?
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I now get all fans I needed, but I lack extension and Y splitters to activate them all. My intention was to get it from Noctua, assuming quality will be good, but my dealer/shop is unable to get cables from them now.

All what they have about extensions and Y splitters are at this moment, is available from AKASA only. Now, I did search on internet and see that they have indeed extensions and splitters with similar looking. But I have zero expirience with them. Are their cables good quality?
Old Akasa were not good, but newer ones are okay. Can you post an image of ones you can get? Then I can tell you if they are okay or not.

Phanteks Owners Club Ways to Better Cooling
i7 980 @ 3.55GHz =PH-TC14PE w/2x TY-143 fans =Crucial Ballistix 3x4GB =GA-X58A-UD5 =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =Enermax Modu84+ =Define R2 w/3x TY-140 case intake fans; all PWM controlled by CPU fan socketPhanteks Enthoo Primo MoBo Rampage III Extreme CPUi7 980X
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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Old Akasa were not good, but newer ones are okay. Can you post an image of ones you can get? Then I can tell you if they are okay or not.

Ok. I asked seller and they send me this pictures, it includes Y splitters and extensions.
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I now get all fans I needed, but I lack extension and Y splitters to activate them all. My intention was to get it from Noctua, assuming quality will be good, but my dealer/shop is unable to get cables from them now.



All what they have about extensions and Y splitters are at this moment, is available from AKASA only. Now, I did search on internet and see that they have indeed extensions and splitters with similar looking. But I have zero expirience with them. Are their cables good quality?
What quality you're looking for in a bunch of cables that are gonna run minimal level of current and voltages.

I have 30¢ splitters and noctua ones (they look identical to what you posted....but i think they're slightly longer). I don't see why would you use one over the other based on quality.
I'm using cheaper ones because they are 2.5x the length of the noctua and i can route them where i want, and the noctuas are sitting in the box.
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What quality you're looking for in a bunch of cables that are gonna run minimal level of current and voltages.

I have 30¢ splitters and noctua ones (they look identical to what you posted....but i think they're slightly longer). I don't see why would you use one over the other based on quality.
I'm using cheaper ones because they are 2.5x the length of the noctua and i can route them where i want, and the noctuas are sitting in the box.

Extensions should be 30cm, splitters 15cm.

I need enough quality to ensure no problem like lost contact on some pins, etc. Which I had expirienced on cheap ebay cables, along with other problems. And now, trust me, it is not worth to cheap on that things.

One time I get Y splitter from ebay with rpm pin on both connectors, imagine that.

I would rather plug quality extension into quality extension than risk using any cables and expirience problems like before.

Y splitters will be used for Noctua 120mm Industrial 2000rpm PWM, three on top, and two on door (optional), Cooler Master Cosmos II case. Exactly these fans draw only 0.1A, but anyway, I invested much into fans and cooling so I really would like to complete build with quality cables.
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Ok. I asked seller and they send me this pictures, it includes Y splitters and extensions.
Those look okay. The problem with some is shrink wrap tube overlaps sleeving but not socket/plug. That means wires are rigid in heatshrink and socket/plug with all flexing being in very short area where wires enter plug/socket. End result is if they flex too many times they with stress harden this short bit of wire eventually breaking. Just be careful to not flex the wires entering sockets/plugs and you will be fine.

Phanteks Owners Club Ways to Better Cooling
i7 980 @ 3.55GHz =PH-TC14PE w/2x TY-143 fans =Crucial Ballistix 3x4GB =GA-X58A-UD5 =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =Enermax Modu84+ =Define R2 w/3x TY-140 case intake fans; all PWM controlled by CPU fan socketPhanteks Enthoo Primo MoBo Rampage III Extreme CPUi7 980X
@ 4.0GHz =R1 Ultimate w/2x TY-143 fans =Dominator GT 6x2GB =Rampage III Extreme =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =TX850 =Enthoo Primo w/ custom castor base
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Those look okay. The problem with some is shrink wrap tube overlaps sleeving but not socket/plug. That means wires are rigid in heatshrink and socket/plug with all flexing being in very short area where wires enter plug/socket. End result is if they flex too many times they with stress harden this short bit of wire eventually breaking. Just be careful to not flex the wires entering sockets/plugs and you will be fine.
Ok. So this is newer ones you mentioned?
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Ok. So this is newer ones you mentioned?
I think so. In below image of original 5-way PSU powered PWM splitter you can see how all leads terminate into connections in plugs/sockets:



Below is newer style with mutliple leads grouped together away from plugs/sockets with single set of leads terminating into plugs/sockets:



Again, this is 5-way PWM splitter, not the 2-way and 3-way you are getting.
Personally I would not use Akasa because of problems I had with them in the past. Too many better ones with better customer support than Akasa gave me when I had problems.

You said your fans are rated 0.1a. I'm pretty sure that is rated load, not start-up or impeller stopped load. Startup/stalled load is many times higher. If you've ever read about someone burning up their fan hub / controller / splitter it's almost always at startup, when fans are drawing 3-6 times more power than rated load. Attached chart below has rated and startup load specs for Gentle Typhoon fans made by Nidec Servo. You can see how 2150rpm GT with 0.123amp rating and draws .0530 at startup.
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@ 4.0GHz =R1 Ultimate w/2x TY-143 fans =Dominator GT 6x2GB =Rampage III Extreme =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =TX850 =Enthoo Primo w/ custom castor base
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