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post #21 of 1479 (permalink) Old 11-17-2014, 03:04 PM - Thread Starter
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LoL.

I need and want a white and blue theme.

Anyways, If they're on par or even better than XF140, I might replace the one on the C1.My case is all black even inside.

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Then the PH-F140HP is good.

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Then the PH-F140HP is good.

(Sorry if this is noobish, I'm still learning)!

Is it possible to mount these on a 420mm rad? Before you say no because of the 120mm mounting holes, what if I used this? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16544/fss-43/ModRight_Ninja_Vibration_Silencer_140mm_Fan_Gasket_w_Lip_-_White.html#blank
and maybe some tape?

Will this be at least as effective as having square fans with 140mm mounting holes? Or will performance be different somehow versus a theoretical square PH-F140HP?

I bought them anyway knowing they won't natively fit a radiator because this is exactly the model I want. It's 4 pin/PWM, has a white frame and fan, 140mm, and performance rivaling noctua's at a reasonable price. It was also the best stat-wise (I think) compared to the other white 140mm Phantek offerings. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FZM30YG/
I just bought 5 and will be using them as case fans for now in my NZXT H630, but I want to use them on radiators in the future when I get watercooling.
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No, they are vibration dampening material (rubber / silicone) and only 2mm thick. They are the right shape but not rigid or thick enough to be used as mounting adapters. Something like this:



120mm to 140mm mounting adapter for 140mm fans with 120mm mounts


I've made these before and they work great. Only need a drill press and table saw .. and a 135mm hole saw. wink.gif
If person was doing 50+ it would not take long per adapter, but it's very time consuming when only making a couple.Takes more time setting up for each step when only doing a few than actual cutting / drilling time. First setup to cut the 135mm holes, then cut squares w/ 135mm hole, then drill 104.5mm spacing holes & countersink, then drill 124.5mm spacing holes.
I have not seen anything similar being marketed. Wish someone would. Nothing trick or expensive.


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No, they are vibration dampening material (rubber / silicone) and only 2mm thick. They are the right shape but not rigid or thick enough to be used as mounting adapters. Something like this:





I've made these before and they work great. Only need a drill press and table saw .. and a 135mm hole saw. wink.gif
If person was doing 50+ it would not take long per adapter, but it's very time consuming when only making a couple.Takes more time setting up for each step when only doing a few than actual cutting / drilling time. First setup to cut the 135mm holes, then cut squares w/ 135mm hole, then drill 104.5mm spacing holes & countersink, then drill 124.5mm spacing holes.
I have not seen anything similar being marketed. Wish someone would. Nothing trick or expensive.

Thanks very much for your reply! In a few months when I go water I will use these charts. Where would I get white silicone sheets though? Aesthetics is a top priority.

Will I have to cut off the edge of the edges of fan though? I hope the points don't stick out...
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You don't use silicone for this sort of thing. You want a rigid plastic that is not brittle. Acrylic will work but it is pretty easy to crack / break. I would use something like ABS plastic or polycarbonate. ABS would be cheapest. Find a plastic shop near where you live and stop in. Explain what you want to do and they may give you some scrap pieces to make your adapters with. If not they won't charge you much. wink.gif

As for cutting of the edges, I assume you mean on your PH-F140HP fan? No, they are 140x140mm. Adapter base may need to be trimmed depending on the spacing of case / cooler holes, but most allow for fans being 141mm square.


Bolt through mounting kits upgrade thick base Thermalright coolers:

Venomous X BTK II for Upgrade Cooler to S
Product Code: VX-BTK-II


Although it only says Venomous, it works on:
Archon (SB-E/SB-E X2)
AXP-140
HR-01/HR-02/HR-22
IFX-14
MUX-120
Venomous
Silver Arrow
Ultra-120

For sockets:
1150/1155/1156/1366/2011
AM2+/AM3+/FM2/FM3






TRUE Bolt Through Kit only shows up on Thermalright.de website.


Works on:
Archon (SB-E/SB-E X2)
AXP-140
HR-01/HR-02/HR-22
IFX-14
MUX-120
Venomous
Silver Arrow
Ultra-120

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You don't use silicone for this sort of thing. You want a rigid plastic that is not brittle. Acrylic will work but it is pretty easy to crack / break. I would use something like ABS plastic or polycarbonate. ABS would be cheapest. Find a plastic shop near where you live and stop in. Explain what you want to do and they may give you some scrap pieces to make your adapters with. If not they won't charge you much. wink.gif

As for cutting of the edges, I assume you mean on your PH-F140HP fan? No, they are 140x140mm. Adapter base may need to be trimmed depending on the spacing of case / cooler holes, but most allow for fans being 141mm square.
This makes sense (I'm 100% noob with modding), I will probably get a piece large enough so I can fit it directly to the radiator after attaching all 3 fans to it. That way there are even less air gaps vs 3 separate pieces.

"Plastic shop"... so would Home Depot or Lowes sell what you're talking about? Is there any way to get some online? I live in the middle of nowhere so I shop online mostly.
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Noctua NF-A14 & NF-A15 series and other fans compared to Thermalright TY-140 series fans









The pink circled data shows how testing results vary. Different humidity, temperature, barometric pressure, etc. all can cause results to be a little different. This is "margin of error" and must be taken into account when comparing the results of different fans.

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Sorry for a bit off topic doyll, but i noticed one of my TY-143', make a whine noise similar to a lamp or a monitor that has noise, id say its a low "uuuuuu" sound, if i stop the fan with my finger, it goes away, so its only one of the two fans.

The fan is about a year old, but its always done it, but i didnt hear it before now, due to a previously noisy graphics card (gigabyte 560 ti, now a MSI GTX 970)

Any experience with thermalrights RMA?, and heard of the issue before?

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Have never had to RMA anything with Thermalright, but whenever I need customer support they have been very good.
I suggest sending them an email explaining the problem and see what they say.

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Alright will do, Thanks. - Sorry for off-topic.

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