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post #551 of 558 (permalink) Old 08-28-2019, 07:29 AM - Thread Starter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Elrick View Post
They did mention on their Web site;

http://www.thermalright.com/product/true-universal-btk/

Compatible with HR-22 so I'm guessing it should work with this new Graphene Monster.
Indeed! HR-22 is old enough design to have thick base. Not many of the new coolers do. I don't think it has any effect on cooler as the additional thicking is on top side. I think botton side of both is same basic thickness.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Elrick View Post
Yeah, eager to find out when mine gets here in Convict Town.

Thin base should transfer heat far more quickly, than a thicker one. Also waiting for a True Bolt Through Kit fitting, to come in as well because this Graphene Cooler doesn't fit any AM4 setup without using it.

This cooler will be used on my incoming 3800x which I'm still waiting for.
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LeGrandMacho is a great cooler, probably among the top 10, but its meant for low airflow, its a cooler that excels with low rpm fans, and yes a TY143 will still lower the highest temp your cpus are reaching, but it wont be as good as dual tower with dual fans, Noctua NH-D15S is probably the best high end air cooler, specially strapping dual TY143, that said the difference is not abysmal over the LeGrandMacho, simply at high rpms, the low density of the fin stacks of the macho don't dissipate heat as good as high fin stack, reason why coolers like TSP 140 / NH-U14S are a good option. To me LGM is a great cooler for people wanting a quiet setup, at low rpms is probably the best cooler that can strap a fan on, its massive size and the wide spread of fins allows low airflow to be very efficient.



There is a recent roundup that tests many of the high end coolers,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fq-oi7p6r4



Wrong. It's meant for low static pressure, and high airflow. You can achieve mid to high airflow at some mid to low RPM speeds in a excellent case. Actually most cases, will limit you to 5-7/10 anyway, if you were to put a measurement to airflow.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Abula View Post
There is a recent roundup that tests many of the high end coolers,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fq-oi7p6r4
I don't think that review is accurate. Other reputable reviews show Le Grand Macho to cool similar to NH-D15 and other top tier coolers.



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Wrong. It's meant for low static pressure, and high airflow. You can achieve mid to high airflow at some mid to low RPM speeds in a excellent case. Actually most cases, will limit you to 5-7/10 anyway, if you were to put a measurement to airflow.

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It's sad, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

Le Grand Macho is made for low pressure low airflow use, just as Abula said.
You don't even know what static pressure is. Static pressure is the amount of pressure a fan can push into a sealed container .. hardly something we do with our computer fans. All computer fans have very low static pressure ratingings. They make such low amount of pressure it's less than the difference in atmospheric pressure at sea level and the pressure at about 3-4 meters above sea level.

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I don't think that review is accurate. Other reputable reviews show Le Grand Macho to cool similar to NH-D15 and other top tier coolers.




It's sad, but you have no idea what you are talking about.

Le Grand Macho is made for low pressure low airflow use, just as Abula said.
You don't even know what static pressure is. Static pressure is the amount of pressure a fan can push into a sealed container .. hardly something we do with our computer fans. All computer fans have very low static pressure ratingings. They make such low amount of pressure it's less than the difference in atmospheric pressure at sea level and the pressure at about 3-4 meters above sea level.
Oh pls, get lost! Mr. expert. You may be the one with most experience here, but sometimes your cockiness gets over your head way to much, thinking you got always all the answers. Static pressure is real in PCs thermals, and regardless of your *subjective* opinion on the matter, they do make a noticeable difference. Otherwise cooler manufacturers wouldn't be playing with fin count and spacing, and we would have 1 standard alone.

The macho type coolers will see more disadvantage in a hotbox than a u12a type cooler. Now go argue with the fish in the sea.



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Oh pls, get lost! Mr. expert. You may be the one with most experience here, but sometimes your cockiness gets over your head way to much, thinking you got always all the answers. Static pressure is real in PCs thermals, and regardless of your *subjective* opinion on the matter, they do make a noticeable difference. Otherwise cooler manufacturers wouldn't be playing with fin count and spacing, and we would have 1 standard alone.

The macho type coolers will see more disadvantage in a hotbox than a u12a type cooler. Now go argue with the fish in the sea.

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When someone posts up such nonsensical things as you did as if they were in any way logical or scientific, I tend to point out what is real.
As I stated before, "static" = stopped, not moving .. a fan's static pressure rating is the maximum pressure it can push into a sealed container. How do you use a fan making it's 'static pressure' in a computer?

Simply put, my 'subjective opinion' is bases on knowledge and expreience and is simply the truth of the matter. It is not some nonsensical fantasy someone comes up with and posts up as if it is reality.
Now if you were to post actual knowledge instead of fantasy I would not be pointing out how it is wrong, but discuss it with you.
No, Macho and similar coolers are effected by the air temp going into them in the same ways all other coolers are. CPUs running at 100% CPU load are all effected by temp of air going into cooler the same. Every degree warmer the air into cooler is translates into same degrees hotter the CPU will be at same fan speed / airflow rate.

Fin count, spacing, etc. are a different subject .. one entirely different from fan static pressure ratings. They are also only one part of specifications of a cooler that determine it's cooling ability.

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I don't think that review is accurate. Other reputable reviews show Le Grand Macho to cool similar to NH-D15 and other top tier coolers.
There is more funky in that test than just that. A D15S doesn't outperform a TC14PE by that margin, if at all, and the Dark Rock Pro 4 won't outperform it at all. Also, how exactly does removing a fan from the NH-D15 (the NH-D15S) make it perform better????? This test is a joke. It was either done with no controls in place, or the guy threw darts at a dart board to arrive at the numbers.

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There is more funky in that test than just that. A D15S doesn't outperform a TC14PE by that margin, if at all, and the Dark Rock Pro 4 won't outperform it at all. Also, how exactly does removing a fan from the NH-D15 (the NH-D15S) make it perform better????? This test is a joke. It was either done with no controls in place, or the guy threw darts at a dart board to arrive at the numbers.
Reminds me of OcUK user stulid's TIM review of like all TIM OcUK sells. When asked what the ambient temp was his answer was he did all testing late at night so temps were all the same. Didn't even have / use a thermometer in the room, much less monitor actual air temp into cooler.

That forum still has that TIM testing pinned in the air cooling / overclocking thread.

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