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I made the long thread, Is the Noctua NH-D14 still the king of cpu air coolers? (why is it so good?) https://www.overclock.net/t/1418683/is-the-noctua-nh-d14-still-the-king-of-cpu-air-coolers-why-is-it-so-good


I now have a Noctua NH-D15 and a fx 8300 (never had a NH-D14), i bought the cpu cooler so i never had to buy a new one for many years to come

But with my need to go beyond 4.2ghz with low temps made me look to see if theres any air, aio cpu cooler that is noticeable better, for no more than 50% more than what a NH-D15 costs

According to this thread there isn't, all we get is more noise, not even a Swiftech H220-X or the big brother the H240-X is not noticeable better than a Notcua NH-d15 and it isn't just 50% more expensive than the noctuca NH-D15 cooler https://www.overclock.net/t/1522565/swiftech-h140-x-added-to-h220-x-h240-x-cooler-reviews-and-discussions




Are we come to the limited where a aio or air cpu, even if they are allowed to be extremly noise like the Corsair H100i,CM Glacier-240L and Swiftech H240-X, can't beat the Noctua NH-D15?

Most we see in the picture is 3c lower temps comparted to the noctua, but at what expense..... more noise, no less than 7db more noise

So to get more cooling power without much more noise than a Noctua Nh-d15, we need something with atleast 3x120mm fans and pump,radiattor that costs no less than 2 times the costs of a Noctua NH-D15? Mabye even 3 times more expensive?
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For the price a good air cooler still can't be beat. You need a copper rad on your loop to make a difference, but then price is an issue.

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I made the long thread, Is the Noctua NH-D14 still the king of cpu air coolers? (why is it so good?) https://www.overclock.net/t/1418683/is-the-noctua-nh-d14-still-the-king-of-cpu-air-coolers-why-is-it-so-good


I now have a Noctua NH-D15 and a fx 8300 (never had a NH-D14), i bought the cpu cooler so i never had to buy a new one for many years to come

But with my need to go beyond 4.2ghz with low temps made me look to see if theres any air, aio cpu cooler that is noticeable better, for no more than 50% more than what a NH-D15 costs

According to this thread there isn't, all we get is more noise, not even a Swiftech H220-X or the big brother the H240-X is not noticeable better than a Notcua NH-d15 and it isn't just 50% more expensive than the noctuca NH-D15 cooler https://www.overclock.net/t/1522565/swiftech-h140-x-added-to-h220-x-h240-x-cooler-reviews-and-discussions




Are we come to the limited where a aio or air cpu, even if they are allowed to be extremly noise like the Corsair H100i,CM Glacier-240L and Swiftech H240-X, can't beat the Noctua NH-D15?

Most we see in the picture is 3c lower temps comparted to the noctua, but at what expense..... more noise, no less than 7db more noise

So to get more cooling power without much more noise than a Noctua Nh-d15, we need something with atleast 3x120mm fans and pump,radiattor that costs no less than 2 times the costs of a Noctua NH-D15? Mabye even 3 times more expensive?
Swiftech are 5-6c better cooling with high overclock & fans at full speed. Even at lower overclocks it is better. And when fans and pump are slowed down Swiftecht is still 1-3c cooling. To me that is 'noticeably better' cooling.

But I will agree not enough for me to have even a glimmer of a hint of a thought to consider spending twice what a good air cooler costs to have one. biggrin.gif



Like @Melcar, you and many others including myself keep saying, top air is best way to go. Air cooling has the best price for performance and reliability.

That said, I have to admit I am now using a be quiet! Silent Loop 280mm and really like it .. and I hate CLCs! Whitle th eSilent Loop is not a real component system, it is a AIO, not a CLC. It has a copper radiator, fill plug, threaded fittings, and quiet reverse flow pump block. Only negative is while the pump is great for components it comes with, it is not powerful enough for additional components in the loop.

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But at what price ........ more noise and higher price

Even when the swiftech is as silent as noctua with the pump at 850rpm and fans at 1350rpm is't still alot more expensive than the noctua, amazon.com say 85$ for noctua and 155$ for swiftech

noctua is just silent all the time compared to aio coolers, thats another reason besides the price to choose noctua over swiftech


Also i find it a bit funny,strange,annoying that a aio cooler have to use air to cool the water and still not superior to an air cooler like the noctua NH-D15, since it's 99% of the time with stock fans (often pump noise) is very noise and costs alot more than the best air cooler

Corsair H100I is very good and price is okay, but a bit pump noise and very noisy stock fans (better fans costs atleast 20$ each, just not enough they are more silent)

Swiftech can be silent, but atleast 60% more expensive (corsair H100I v2 can be had for 97$ where the swiftech cost 155$ on amazon)
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Nothing is really going to beat an NH-D15 at similar noise levels until you get into very good AIOs or custom loops.

Some of the better CLCs can beat the D15 in absolute temperature performance, but they get very loud to do so. Main use for smaller/cheaper CLCs is to get adequate cooling where a heatsink tower won't fit.
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But I will agree not enough for me to have even a glimmer of a hint of a thought to consider spending twice what a good air cooler costs to have one. biggrin.gif

5-6C better can easily be enough to add another 100-200MHz to the OCs of some parts, and if you are willing to sacrifice silence, you'll get more from adding faster fans to a large radiator than you will to a heatsink.

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Nothing is really going to beat an NH-D15 at similar noise levels until you get into very good AIOs or custom loops.

Thermalright heatsinks :wink:

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Noctua is not the best air cooler. One of the best, yes; but there are at least 4 others just as good.

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But at what price ........ more noise and higher price

Even when the swiftech is as silent as noctua with the pump at 850rpm and fans at 1350rpm is't still alot more expensive than the noctua, amazon.com say 85$ for noctua and 155$ for swiftech

noctua is just silent all the time compared to aio coolers, thats another reason besides the price to choose noctua over swiftech


Also i find it a bit funny,strange,annoying that a aio cooler with water have to use air to cool the water and stillnot superior to an air cooler like the noctua NH-D15,
since it's 99% of the time with stock fans (often pump noise) is very noise and costs alot more than the best air cooler

Corsair H100I is very good and price is okay, but a bit pump noise and very noisy stock fans (better fans costs atleast 20$ each, just not enough they are more silent)

Swiftech can be silent, but atleast 60% more expensive (corsair H100I v2 can be had for 97$ where the swiftech cost 155$ on amazon)

It was actually 850rpm fans and 1350rpm on the pump in that test. That is the minimum speeds that the H240-X was able to run.

I'm not sure how you can consider the H100i "very good". It need to be 25 dB louder to cool as well as the D15, cools like a $29 212 EVO at tolerable noise levels, costs more, and is far more prone to failure. I really see nothing good in any way about that, let alone "very good". And....you went straight for the "upgrade the fans" trap, which leaves you with a $140 CLC that costs as much as a Swiftech H220-X2, is still louder, and you have actually downgraded the cooling from the stock fans. So you just spent $140 to try to replicate a $49 air cooler. rolleyes.gif
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Thermalright heatsinks :wink:

Eh, really a wash. The Silver Arrows typically need more airflow and noise than the D15 for similar performance. But, the TS 140 and Macho Zero outfitted with fans can get similar results.

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Noctua is not the best air cooler. One of the best, yes; but there are at least 4 others just as good.

Care to menition them? Thermalright silwer arrow, Be quiet dark pro 3, Phanteks PH-TC14PE and Cyroig R1 Ultimate?
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It was actually 850rpm fans and 1350rpm on the pump in that test. That is the minimum speeds that the H240-X was able to run.

I'm not sure how you can consider the H100i "very good". It need to be 25 dB louder to cool as well as the D15, cools like a $29 212 EVO at tolerable noise levels, costs more, and is far more prone to failure. I really see nothing good in any way about that, let alone "very good". And....you went straight for the "upgrade the fans" trap, which leaves you with a $140 CLC that costs as much as a Swiftech H220-X2, is still louder, and you have actually downgraded the cooling from the stock fans. So you just spent $140 to try to replicate a $49 air cooler. rolleyes.gif
Eh, really a wash. The Silver Arrows typically need more airflow and noise than the D15 for similar performance. But, the TS 140 and Macho Zero outfitted with fans can get similar results.

It's good at keeping temps low but as i mentioned it's loud/noisy

The swiftech might be a bit more quiet,silnet but alot more expensive


http://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_hydro_series_h100i_review,9.html
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