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post #11 of 88 (permalink) Old 12-07-2018, 09:10 AM
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I agree, 212 is mediocre at best and not often problematic when trying to use on newer systems. Sure, it is still probably better than CPU oem coolers, but like shilka said, with a little looking there are almost always better choices.

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Its 10 years old now and its like the Volvo Amazon of CPU coolers

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All this hate because one old CPU cooler ?

In the end is 20ºc cooler then stock heatsink for the R5 2600.

So, do the job.

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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
Its 10 years old now and its like the Volvo Amazon of CPU coolers
Volvo Amazon .. haven't heard anything about them in donkey's years .. but no, comparing 212 to a new CPU cooler is nothing at all like comparing a 1956-1970 car to a new car. Way more technological improvement even between a 10-15 year old car and a brand new one than a 10 year old CPU cooler and a new one.

Both 10 year old CPU cooler and new CPU cooler have:
Same basic aluminum fins design and construction
Same basic heatpipe design and construction
Same base design and construction
Same basic mount design and construction with only the newer mounting bolt patterns added
Same basic fan design .. maybe different color and foo-foo RGB bling added
That is very different than a 40ish year old car compared to new one
New car has:
Disc brakes versus old drum brakes (probably ABS braking too
Computer designed and built engines computer controlled
vs hand made engines with carbs and mech. dist.
Electric door locks / keyless entry vs key
Electric window vs cranks
Much more advanced suspensions vs old spring an shock
Much nicer interiors
Much better radial tires on alloy rims vs old belted tires
Sorry, but cooler tech now is almost exactly what it was 10 years ago .. now if we go back 15 or 20 years, then there is a big difference, like car difference.


Quote: Originally Posted by jclafi View Post
All this hate because one old CPU cooler ?

In the end is 20ºc cooler then stock heatsink for the R5 2600.

So, do the job.
20c cooler on a CPU rated for 65-75c (not sure exactly what safe limit is for R5 2600) is a lot if CPU is hitting that 65-75c .. 20c is a lot cooler regardless of what CPU's safe operating max temp is. Now if it was 5c or 6c cooler then yeah, it's wouldn't be as much of a difference.

But the difference between how 212 cooler (and some other very low cost coolers) mount can make a big difference. 212 was never a great cooler, but it was (and is) a decent low cost cooler readily available in many places. The difference is now there are usually at least a couple better options costing about the same or less with similar or better cooling ability and having better mounting system.

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The Volvo Amazon part was meant as a joke
And criticism is not hate

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Got a True Spirit 140 for 41.99 from Newegg.

212 did so well because it was a cheap HDT cooler. The mounting system doesn't age well becomes a real PITA, all the while having mediocre mounting pressure that allows it to twist with ease.


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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post
The Volvo Amazon part was meant as a joke
I guess your bad choice of comparisons could be considered a joke. But at the end of the day it was simply a very bad choice for comparison that overpowers any chance of it coming across as a joke.


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Got a True Spirit 140 for 41.99 from Newegg.

212 did so well because it was a cheap HDT cooler. The mounting system doesn't age well becomes a real PITA, all the while having mediocre mounting pressure that allows it to twist with ease.
Indeed, the mount was/is marginal at best.

Link please, because when I looked on newegg.com for 'True Spirit 140' I find nothing .. also nothing on Amazon.com and NansGamingGear only has TRUE Spirit 140 Power showing.

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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I guess your bad choice of comparisons could be considered a joke. But at the end of the day it was simply a very bad choice for comparison that overpowers any chance of it coming across as a joke.



Indeed, the mount was/is marginal at best.

Link please, because when I looked on newegg.com for 'True Spirit 140' I find nothing .. also nothing on Amazon.com and NansGamingGear only has TRUE Spirit 140 Power showing.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...22B-002R-00001


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Quote: Originally Posted by Dillmiester View Post
Strange, when I try our link I get, "Sorry, We can't find this Item. Please check your Item#."

Had to go incognito and use Tor browser to see TRUE Spirit 140 Direct cooler. It is indeed a nice cooler and I'm using one myself in one of my systems.

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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
Strange, when I try our link I get, "Sorry, We can't find this Item. Please check your Item#."

Had to go incognito and use Tor browser to see TRUE Spirit 140 Direct cooler. It is indeed a nice cooler and I'm using one myself in one of my systems.
Link works fine for me

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