Originally Posted by Shenhua
You're talking about specific cases. Have you checked the prices and availability in Europe? Or Asia? South America?
Also idk from where you're pulling data, but from everything you said, im pretty sure, you don't have the most remote idea of how airflow works, and you watch/read test bench reviews that in 90% of the cases they don't even know to measure the air temperature, or/and you're generalising some specific experiences (yours or some1 else's) with specific conditions, and take it as an absolute truth. So GL bro, I'm done here.
Doyll has a nice thread called, "ways to better cooling". Go read that untill you understand how things work.
Yes, specific cases...as opposed to what? General cases? Wouldn't that just be an assumption?
Never heard of him
...but you can be pretty sure about me all you want. More vertical doesn't mean your 212 is suddenly able to dissipate more heat, I think you might have misunderstood something in that thread. Getting heat out as quickly as it's created is all there is to it and each case will have ideal fan positions to amke that happen and even instances where more RPM is a bad thing, it's not some magic that only you and Doyll understand (no offense Doyll)...I literally re-work and pitch propellers for a living. The study of air flow is the study of fluid dynamics so in essence 120" water fans is my job. The other part of cooling is not running your GPU heat through your CPU cooler, a 1c rise in intake is almost exactly 1c higher core temps. Vertical or horizontal is totally case specific, there's no vertical cooler scaling magic that the 212 has that a similar cooler wouldn't.
None of that is relevant though, not to this.
The 212 is meh, there are better options. I'm not considering obscure destinations, the pricing I was posting was in USD and the link I posted was primarily European becasue I knew you'd go there despite not specifying a country in which you are correct. If you'd bothered to even look you'd see the same thing. I'm not a sales wizard making up prices, I used Google, Newegg and Amazon to verify my prices, we've all been watching the 212 gradually become a cooler of yesterday as better or cheaper alternatives came along. Since you like to name drop like you wrote his thread, Doyll was the one who told me about the TS140s in the first place with the "power" being the best of them.
Obviously I'm not checking prices everywhere, I'm merely suggesting coolers that are within about 5% of a 212 and better or cheaper for less money. The Pure Rock is probably the best 212 replacement since it's the same price and better in every way wile also being available everywhere, the H7 may or may not fit that outline anymore for everyone but I found one pretty cheap shipped to the US. The point is that there are better coolers out there, it's pretty futile to say that the 212 is the best of anything when cheaper coolers are as good and similarly priced ones are better.
The only reason I even have a 212 instead of an H7 or a PureRock is becasue all over the internet you'll see people parroting that it's the best PPD cooler when that's simply not true anymore, hasen't been since before I bought mine.