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post #61 of 83 (permalink) Old 04-24-2019, 08:40 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
I don't consider adding my opinion of 212 to the list as being 'sarcastic', but a simple statement of what many of us consider a fact .. possibly making this a sarcastic statement.
Wasn't referring to you. Your post was quoted in the post I was replying to.

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OK so TLDR I didn't read all 6 pages LOL.

I'm with the OP, and the 212 series is the absolute best bang for the buck cooler you can buy, even today in 2019. You naysayers need to show me a $20ish cooler that can do what these things can do.
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You have to consider the context in which the 212 came up

There weren't as many options at the time, the 212 actually helped bring the better options you've seen over the years

I always see the 212 recommended as a cheap alternative to the stock cooler. No one was suggesting the 212 to break OC records. If you're a casual the first thing you noticed was the sound of the stock cooler, 20$ solved that problem

Besides, there can't be more than what, 5 degree variance between 20$ coolers? You feel that strongly about 5 degrees ? Get out of the 20$ budget cooler segment

Especially when you consider that yes, it is the current year, but we're talking about a slab of metal designed decades ago. This song and dance about hyping the 212 is outrageous and misguided imo. Good luck though



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Quote: Originally Posted by shilka View Post

My bad.
You are correct, my bad.


I was refering to other one that is 1 year 4 months old.

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Even then the 212 was most popular in North American market. In Europe and other places where companies like Scythe, Thermalright, Alpenfohn, etc. had a good market we always had many better coolers at similar and lower prices than 212.

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A simple Google search for:

"CPU air Cooler comparison"

would certainly help clear up the whole issue.

I did it and found no less than 3 comparatives and they all had the 212 in their top 6-10 lists. What's funny is the 212 has been around for as long as it has been and these articles were compiled in 2019.

That tells me all I need to know about how solid a 212 actually is.

But hey, if a 212 doesn't quite do it for you they list the 400 Gammax above it. As well as a few other Coolers but those are going from anywhere between $60 to $80. So it's all about what you're willing to spend to get a couple more *c in performance from an Air cooler.

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The point isn't that the 212 evo sucks. It doesn't, it still works just as well as it always was.
The problem is that the price fluctuates and it's been over $30-35 most of the time when there are several other coolers (whose prices also fluctuate) with the same or better performance, and more often than not one or more of them beat it in every way.

So instead of recommending just one cooler, which is often overpriced, recommend 3 similar coolers and tell them to just pick the cheapest one available to them.

Example lazy post that wastes other people's money:
"You should get the Hyper 212 Evo"

Example good post that helps people get the best for their money and also keeps the market honest by promoting competition:
"You should get the cheapest of either the Cryorig H7, CM Hyper 212 Evo, or the Deepcool Gammaxx 400. If none of these are available to you for a reasonable price (under $35) check out these other coolers: https://www.overclock.net/forum/246-...ernatives.html
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Ambient temp last night was ~60*F

Ryzen Master reports CPU temp @ idle at 28.75*c and the 212 EVO is all I have cooling this system as it's on my BC1 Open Bench Table. I have no other form of cooling assistance blowing across the board. The only fan in use is an EKWB Vardar ER RGB 120(500-2200rpm range) that is going to be used when I go back to a Custom loop setup.

I get that people have a hard time with CoolerMaster 212, but for the buck it really is an excellent performer. Yeah there are other coolers of similar worth in the same price point. But none of them have the longevity of the 212. The 212 has been around for nearly a decade. Yet the 3 reviews that I've seen all were done in 2019 and they all list the 212 in their "top" lists.

I will mess around with the CPU clock speed over the weekend and post a similar screenshot as a followup.

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I get that people have a hard time with CoolerMaster 212, but for the buck it really is an excellent performer. Yeah there are other coolers of similar worth in the same price point. But none of them have the longevity of the 212. The 212 has been around for nearly a decade. Yet the 3 reviews that I've seen all were done in 2019 and they all list the 212 in their "top" lists.

~Ceadder

Other posts here have clearly shown there are several other coolers of similar price to 212. As for your joke about'longevity', name a similar cooler that will not last just as long. I have one of the first heatpipe coolers made from back in 2007, Thermalright's original 4x heatpipe Ultra 120, still in use today. When did 212 came out?

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From what i recall the Noctua NH-D14 came out in late 2009 or early 2010 and thats a cooler you can still buy today so what was your point?
Yes you can still buy old coolers today but why would you if you can get something better and more modern for the same amount or less

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ceadderman View Post
Ambient temp last night was ~60*F

Ryzen Master reports CPU temp @ idle at 28.75*c and the 212 EVO is all I have cooling this system as it's on my BC1 Open Bench Table. I have no other form of cooling assistance blowing across the board. The only fan in use is an EKWB Vardar ER RGB 120(500-2200rpm range) that is going to be used when I go back to a Custom loop setup.

I get that people have a hard time with CoolerMaster 212, but for the buck it really is an excellent performer. Yeah there are other coolers of similar worth in the same price point. But none of them have the longevity of the 212. The 212 has been around for nearly a decade. Yet the 3 reviews that I've seen all were done in 2019 and they all list the 212 in their "top" lists. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/thumb.gif[/IMG]

I will mess around with the CPU clock speed over the weekend and post a similar screenshot as a followup. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

~Ceadder [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif[/IMG]
So, your ambient was 60f and you are wondering why you are getting such good temps with your 212.. just wait till summer lol. Let’s see how it does with 75f. You are preaching to the wrong choir with this guy. You can never persuade me into believing the almighty 212 is the best cooler. Especially when I have two other coolers that absolutely destroys the 212 in every possible way, except price. Last time I looked 212 evo was 35 on the egg. My TS140P was $15 more than the 212.

So when you come back “after messing with your clock speed this weekend” make sure you run it hard, build some heat for awhile, let it get heat soaked. And close your window so it’s not 60f lol. Because next month it won’t be that cool.

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