Originally Posted by doyll
Other posts here have clearly shown there are several other coolers of similar price to 212. As for your joke about'longevity', name a similar cooler that will not last just as long. I have one of the first heatpipe coolers made from back in 2007, Thermalright's original 4x heatpipe Ultra 120, still in use today. When did 212 came out?
Not a "joke" but the first link to the 212 that I have found was on 31 Oct 2007. There may be other links but have found two right off the bat.
One from Proclockers.
And the other is an Anandtech 2007 Review. Which gives some history about CoolerMaster and a reference to Socket 7 which is pretty old tech. Although likely older than the Hyper 212. Anyone remember ORYX?
Originally Posted by shilka
From what i recall the Noctua NH-D14 came out in late 2009 or early 2010 and thats a cooler you can still buy today so what was your point?
Yes you can still buy old coolers today but why would you if you can get something better and more modern for the same amount or less
My point was that if it weren't a solid Cooler that it wouldn't be in ANYONES' top list. I would think that stood out as it was written. But sometimes I expect too much from the reader, so I get it. Maybe I should have written it. My bad.
Originally Posted by Owterspace
So, your ambient was 60f and you are wondering why you are getting such good temps with your 212.. just wait till summer lol. Let’s see how it does with 75f. You are preaching to the wrong choir with his guy. You can never persuade me into believing the almighty 212 is the best cooler. Especially when I have two other coolers that absolutely destroys the 212 in every possible way, except price. Last time I looked 212 evo was 35 on the egg. My TS140P was $15 more than the 212.
So when you come back “after messing with your clock speed this weekend” make sure you run it hard, build some heat for awhile, let it get heat soaked. And close your window so it’s not 60f lol. Because next month it won’t be that cool.
Different CPU but was a bit of a heat generator when I ran the 212 on my CIVFormula, atop my lapped 955BE in my HAF932 it got pretty solid performance from the 212 with a 4.0ghz clock during the Summer. But hey, not like I have any experience with the 212 during the Summer. Even experience with the heat generated by an Eastward Sun in a house that is North to South orientated. Sure AC was on but only to keep things comfortable. I live in the Northwest. We don't get super warm days until mid to late July and sometimes not until the first 2 weeks of August. The winds blowing through the Columbia Gorge keep things pretty mild for most of the Summer unless there is a pretty big fire in my neck of the woods.
All I was saying is that it's a bit impressive that the 212 has been around for over 10 years and that it's still showing up in top 5-10 lists. If you don't think that's impressive then kewl, I cannot fault you. I will simply roll my eyes(nicely ofc) and you can keep your opinion. It's yours and you've made up your mind and far be it for me to change it. For the same money spent, there are some solid options out there if you don't want a 212. But if you read the title of this thread, it should come as no surprise that there are people who like if not love the 212. I happen to be one of those people. Though I am not married to the 212 as I custom watercool. EK parts abound in all my systems unless they are waiting for something to complete their Custom loop. Such as Black Snow, which is waiting for its Case on my Open Bench table.
I just would like to know how it's the fault of ANY cooler, which type of Case it ends up in? I would think that's on the builder not the cooler or its manufacturer.
If you purchased an air starved case and got doo doo temps, well then you are the person to blame for the doo doo temps. Same for leaving a moderate mid level fan on a cheap cooler. I purchased all my Cutom loop parts at the same time for Black Snow. Sadly the case I was eyeing sold out before I can put it to use. That's okay because I made certain to have a cooler to bench every component and make sure there were no issues with the system. And the cooler that is in use is married to the Open Bench table and the table only. Those go on the shelf for the next build. And the one after that and so on. They aren't intended for aggresive overclocking. Not that I won't try. Did it last night and was pretty aggressive with an immediate 4.1ghz over stock of 3.6ghz. POSTed but was a touch finicky so I backed it down. I doubt that any of the other cheap coolers would've done any better in that circumstance. So one thing I do know? I know not to expect too much from them. I don't give a rip what a Review says is possible because not all experiences will be the same nor all use case scenarios. Mine sure as Hades isn't. I know what I got the 212 for and it works for what I got it for. I could've gotten any old cheapo cooler when I bought the 212 and they all would have filled the bill nicely I am sure. But I have experience with the 212 EVO and so that's what I got. I have owned quite a few of them. Had I had issues with the first one I never would've purchased another. And I don't simply purchase coolers because they are cheap or on a whim.