Originally Posted by Buris
Have you thought about the NH-U12A? It performs better than both, and has great sound performance as well. Infact, the NH-U12A even beats the Corsair H150i.
Originally Posted by NewType88
I would get the NH-U12A. Aesthetics are subjective, I personally think air coolers look better than AIO's.
Originally Posted by shilka
Dont buy a CLC cooler its going to be worse in every way compared to your old NH-U12P
Originally Posted by AlphaC
Don't buy NH-U12S , it's not stronger than other $40-50 coolers at this point such as Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B, Thermalright ARO-M14G (Macho Rev B with AM4 mounting only) , or Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power (one of the strongest slim towers due to 6x 8mm heatpipes). The NF-F12 fan is also rather underwhelming on its own so neither the heatsink nor the fan are standouts.
If you want to buy Noctua I'd probably spend ~$60 on the NH-U14S. It's been shown to outperform the ARO-M14G in some tests and the NF-A14 hasn't been replaced by a better fan yet.
The NH-U12S doesn't have the heatpipes or fin area of other top slim towers which is why NH-U12A came out this year.
If you're looking at watercoolers , even if you want RGB, I'd be looking at full copper solutions such as Swiftech Drive x3 series for ~$160. The step up is from $50 air coolers to $150 copper expandable watercoolers. You can go from a $40-50 air cooler to a $70-90 one but the improvement isn't as large as from a ~$30 4 heatpipe Scyhe Kotetsu MKII/ Be Quiet Pure rock / Cryorig H7 / Arctic Freezer series to a 6 heatpipe Mugen 5 or ARO-M14G.
Buying a H115i is like going from a NH-U14s to a NH-D15s, a few degrees at most unless you have a overclock on a 8+ core CPU pulling over 160W.
When limited to 30dB the Mugen 5 (the Mugen 5 has a 1200rpm fan rather than 1500rpm) outperforms the NH-U12S.
Hyper 212 to Mugen 5 is over 10 degree drop
In computerbase's latest testing on Ryzen 7 CPU overclocked in a highly restrictive Thermaltake F51 case which favors liquid cooling:
Be Quiet Dark Rock 4 52.4 degrees delta temp @ 35.5dBA <--- failed HardOCP testing
Thermalright Macho Rev B 51.2 degrees delta temp @ 37dBA
Mugen 5 50.8 degrees delta temp @ 37dBA
Silver arrow T8 with Noctua fans 48.8 degrees delta temp @ 36dBA (otherwise ~ 48.8 degrees delta temp is achieved with ~ 39dBA)
Noctua NH-D15 49.3 degree delta temp @33.5dBA
Noctua NH-U12A 48.1 degrees delta temp @ 35.5dBA
H115i pro 46.5 degrees delta temp @ 34dBA
Noctua NH-D15 = 44.2degree delta temp @36.5dbA
H115i pro = 41.9 degree delta temp @37dBA
From NH-U12A review
The NH-U12A or NH-D14/15 are better options than the NH-U12S
Originally Posted by shilka
NH-U12A/NH-D14/15 are too big for me because of:
- I like clear space on cpu area, nhu12s is the biggest I would go
- I move my computer with care quite often, so a big and heavy cooler is not really a good idea.
Also, I'm talking about Corsair h115i PRO, is much better than h100i and also better than h115i, with ML fans and a new pump.
From what I've been reading, h115i pro performs similar to D15
Originally Posted by Shenhua
Thermalright aro m14. Big, heavy, cheap, reliable and silent.
This is exactly what I don't want
Originally Posted by bad_haze
I would recommend the Noctua because they make amazing fans. They are known for being quiet but extremely efficient. The cooler will do the job just fine as well.
To help your decision, you can check out some unboxings to really see how much money the company puts into their products - from marketing, to packaging, to the final product.
I'm really in love with Noctua, they're products are perfects and also they're support.
Support is a reason why I'm not going to buy Scythe or Thermaltake anymore, got a Scythe ninja and a TT Riing Silent PRO that I can not use because they didn't make adapters for other sockets, while Noctua is giving them for free, so in case of air coolers, I'm going to Noctua and no any other brand, I don't mind paying 10$ more if I know that I'll have the best support available.
Originally Posted by epic1337
shouldn't it be the opposite? AIOs aren't supposed to be moved around.
or was that only limited to custom loops?
Custom water-cooling is not for moving them, or at least, with so much caution.
CLC are completly safe to move them around, much better than a big and heavy air cooler because they cannot break the MB with hit on similar going on car.
Okay guys, I think I'm ordering the h115i pro on sale for 115€ and give it a try, if I'm not happy with it, I'll go for the noctua NHu12S AM4 SE.
Both of them should outperform my NHU12P because of the convex IHS problem between the U12P and Ryzen, I'll keep you informed.