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Upgrading from AM2 to AM4 - Cooling questions - Using stock coolers or would AM2 bracket work?

I'm going from my old 1055T build to either a 2700X or 3600. I heard the cooler on the 2700X is pretty decent for if I keep that CPU, I'll run with the Wraith. But how is the cooler on the 3600 - does it run much hotter or it's still fine to run it stock or minimal OC?

Also, any idea if the retention clip from AM2 would work on AM4? It seems similar sized and spaced but has anyone tried it? I still have my Xigmatek Balder that I really liked and if I could use that on the new chips, I would.

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Hard to say price wise without actual shop pricing if 2700X or 3600 is better. I would lean toward 3600 on a B450 motherboard because if you play games then the 3600 is faster.
Or you could score a 2000 series 2nd hand as there might be people who will go from these older 2000 series to higher core count 3000 series. People keep worrying about VRMs but forget that the 3000 series consumes much less power and has very similar TDP, except the 16 core when OCed is gonna eat more for sure. But if a board can handle OCed 8 core it will have no problem with the 12 core.

2700 5300 CZK, 200 EUR
2700X 7200 CZK, 250 EUR
3600 5300 CZK, 210 EUR

It seems at least here 3600 price = 2700 right now.

The coolers are OK for regular use but not much for OC. These chips don't OC anyway (the gain from OC is very low or even negative in single thread performance), the best way is to push PBO auto OC and let it decide same way we OC GPUs nowadays. You can always DIY some mount for a cooler or get a powerful air cooler for $40. Personally if it's just a clip then I would definitely be able to DIY something to make it clip and apply enough pressure as long as the loops fit the notches.

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Hard to say price wise without actual shop pricing if 2700X or 3600 is better. I would lean toward 3600 on a B450 motherboard because if you play games then the 3600 is faster.
Or you could score a 2000 series 2nd hand as there might be people who will go from these older 2000 series to higher core count 3000 series. People keep worrying about VRMs but forget that the 3000 series consumes much less power and has very similar TDP, except the 16 core when OCed is gonna eat more for sure. But if a board can handle OCed 8 core it will have no problem with the 12 core.

2700 5300 CZK, 200 EUR
2700X 7200 CZK, 250 EUR
3600 5300 CZK, 210 EUR

It seems at least here 3600 price = 2700 right now.

The coolers are OK for regular use but not much for OC. These chips don't OC anyway. You can always DIY some mount for a cooler or get a powerful air cooler for $40.

Right now for me pricing was:

2700X and 3600 were $199 each
Asus Prime X370 Pro - $19 after Microcenter 2700X bundle discount. If I keep the 3600 I think the board will be free as they offer $50 off mobo instead of $30 they offer for 2000 series.

But with that savings it seems I might need to get a new cooler for the 3600 - as I was reading reviews and the Spire didn't seem the best. The Wraith is actually very praised though from the 2700X.

The retention clips seems very similar but I guess a mm off and you won't seat it properly. I can always try it out after. I must say after trying the 2700X, that reapplied TIM is like glue/cement - that stuff is horrid.

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That Balder will work on the AM4. Any clip on CPU cooler for that matter will work. I know. I have two Ryzen rigs and i've used my old Xigmatek and a CM T4 on both. The Spire is not very efficient. Use the Balder and some MX-4.

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That Balder will work on the AM4. Any clip on CPU cooler for that matter will work. I know. I have two Ryzen rigs and i've used my old Xigmatek and a CM T4 on both. The Spire is not very efficient. Use the Balder and some MX-4.
Oh really? That's good to know. The Balder worked great on my 1055T. Wasn't sure if the surface area changed a bit on the heatsink.

If that's the case, cooler is not an issue at all for the 3600 since I'll pop in the Balder.

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