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post #21 of 25 (permalink) Old 07-26-2019, 02:36 AM
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Not many tower coolers 130mm or less in height. NH-U9S is one of the best short coolers.

You could use a pancake/flat cooler, but they do not keep their heated exhaust away from cool intake air as well .. especially if their fan is pushing air toward mobo. When it does heats up going through cooler, hits mobo turning out, hits RAM, GPU, etc and turns up along side of cooer and fan where fan pulls it back into cooler. This reuse of heated air can cause CPU to be 8-10c hotter than if fan is turned over to pull air away from motherboard. Your case has venting over CPU, so maybe a flat cooler would work better. Maybe something like AXP-200, but be careful to make sure it will clear all motherboard components, RAM and GPU.

Have you considered getting a case with more CPU clearance?

As for TIM application, IHS is not really a heat spreader but a support base for coolers. The CPU die is only a faction the size of IHS and IHS is so thin it is not spreading heat laterally from CPU die. I generally use a rice size dob in middle of CPU that spreads in a circle just reaching sides of IHS. TIM is supposed to fill imperfections in surfaces, not being a layer between IHS and cooler base. Copper heat transfer rate is about 400W/m K, TIM is only 3-13W/m K. So the more metal to metal contact the better. So you can see how a layer of TIM will greatly reduce heat transfer compared to TIM just filling voids where there is no metal to metal contact.
No, another case is not an option, since i built my Air240 into the furniture, its dimensions fit perfectly
So for tower air coolers, the NH-U9S with 2 fans is the best.
My only option for better CPU cooling would be a 120 or 240mm AIO. I dont know, if a 120mm AIO really delivers more performance? But with a 240mm one, i would block all the fresh air intake i have. So it would heat up everything inside the case.

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No, another case is not an option, since i built my Air240 into the furniture, its dimensions fit perfectly
So for tower air coolers, the NH-U9S with 2 fans is the best.
My only option for better CPU cooling would be a 120 or 240mm AIO. I dont know, if a 120mm AIO really delivers more performance? But with a 240mm one, i would block all the fresh air intake i have. So it would heat up everything inside the case.
Okay, so much for that idea.

How much clearance is there between case and furniture it fits into? All vented sides need at least 5cm .. I like having about 7cm. I assume furniture has open back so heated air can flow out the back?
Keep in mind furniture airflow cross-sectional area needs to be about twice the vent size for airflow to move freely to/from vents.


CLCs are noisier than air cooling at same cooling level. Maybe if you mounted radiator behind furniture, but still their pump can usually be heard even at idle. Kinda like having an aquarium in room.

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Okay, so much for that idea.



How much clearance is there between case and furniture it fits into? All vented sides need at least 5cm .. I like having about 7cm. I assume furniture has open back so heated air can flow out the back?
Keep in mind furniture airflow cross-sectional area needs to be about twice the vent size for airflow to move freely to/from vents.
Thats not an issue. My Air240 is pulling air from the front 2x120, where it is dust filtered, and exhausting at the rear 2x80. No side vents, as there is no space to the sides in the furniture. (window on top) The bottom compartment is pulling air with 1x120, and the psu, from the bottom, where there is 15mm clearance, and exhausting a 80mm. So general air flow is flawless.

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I've been reading up on the best coolers for my 3900x. For 240 AIO's I've heard the CM MASTERLIQUID PRO 240 preforms well. Still waiting for some charts or some relevant data. Seems like some cooler designs preform substantially better than others that would otherwise preform the same on other CPUs.

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Thats not an issue. My Air240 is pulling air from the front 2x120, where it is dust filtered, and exhausting at the rear 2x80. No side vents, as there is no space to the sides in the furniture. (window on top) The bottom compartment is pulling air with 1x120, and the psu, from the bottom, where there is 15mm clearance, and exhausting a 80mm. So general air flow is flawless.
If case airflow is only exiting out the 2x80mm rear vents, then the maximum case airflow is what will flow through those 2x 80mm vents. This means 1x 80mm is flowing what CPU uses, but only 1/3 or 1/2 of the airflow GPU can .. depending on how many 80mm fans are on your GPU. I don't remember how many yours has.

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