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AIO or Aiur Cooled!?

So, i always hear that Air cooled is "better" but i was wondering...Why!? As the better ones tend to be MASSIVE and normally are hideous to look at. I need to get a New CPU cooler and people say to get Noctua NH-U12A which itself is nearly £90. Why not for example get a Corsair Hydro Series H100x? Both the same price, one is HUGE the other isn't If space/Aesthetic is just as important as cooling. Maybe not quite, but enough to make you question getting the NH-U12A for example. What else could you guys suggest?

I was thinking about the Freezer 34 eSports Duo Arctic, seems quite decent, reasonable price. Doesnt look to overly huge and nice black colour scheme but not too sure.As the case is a Corsair Air 540 if i did get a air cooled fan, due to the cooler needing to be facing the front of the case i would have 3 fans blowing cold (when its not insanely hot summer!) into the case, directly into the CPU cooler fans but that also have the issue of the RAM slots as not sure what ones will be able to fit in there without having any issues with the RAM i have as they aren't short ones.

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If your budget is under ~$100, go air.

Not much to explain, a <$100 air cooler performs better than a <$100 AIO.

If your worries are RAM clearance, the Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT is one of the best air coolers you can buy and won't block any RAM slots regardless how tall your RAM is.

If your worries are with airflow/case airflow, then you need to fix that before dumping money into a cooler because an AIO and a heatsink both need good airflow to function. Otherwise you're just wasting money.

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Because... AiOs performance suck when compared to air cooling at half the water cooling one price. You need to spend tons of bucks to get an equivalent cooling capability of Le Grand Macho, Tisis or NH-D14. Also, they're much louder. And if a person go for looks first then well... he's dumb

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If your budget is under ~$100, go air.

Not much to explain, a <$100 air cooler performs better than a <$100 AIO.

If your worries are RAM clearance, the Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT is one of the best air coolers you can buy and won't block any RAM slots regardless how tall your RAM is.

If your worries are airflow, then you need to fix that before dumping money into a cooler, because an AIO and a heatsink both need good airflow to function.
Well, Noctua NH-U12A Vs Corsair Hydro Series H100x? Both same cost. Price isnt as much of a problem, without going into the crazy, crazy prices that i have seen. Lets say my budget at most was £100. Would the top end Air cooler still beat then top end AIO cooler in that price range?
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Quote: Originally Posted by The Pook View Post
If your budget is under ~$100, go air.

Not much to explain, a <$100 air cooler performs better than a <$100 AIO.

If your worries are RAM clearance, the Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT is one of the best air coolers you can buy and won't block any RAM slots regardless how tall your RAM is.

If your worries are with airflow/case airflow, then you need to fix that before dumping money into a cooler because an AIO and a heatsink both need good airflow to function. Otherwise you're just wasting money.
This pretty much sums it up. Then you can add in the fact that air coolers are far more reliable and never leak or have a tube burst.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh View Post
Well, Noctua NH-U12A Vs Corsair Hydro Series H100x? Both same cost. Price isnt as much of a problem, without going into the crazy, crazy prices that i have seen. Lets say my budget at most was £100. Would the top end Air cooler still beat then top end AIO cooler in that price range?

H100X is old and has 40dBa fans and an old Gen4 Asetek pump (new AIOs are Gen6). Go with the NH-U12A.

The only Corsair AIOs you should be looking at is the H100i Pro, H115i Pro, or H150i Pro.

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Quote: Originally Posted by ArmageddonAsh View Post
Well, Noctua NH-U12A Vs Corsair Hydro Series H100x? Both same cost. Price isnt as much of a problem, without going into the crazy, crazy prices that i have seen. Lets say my budget at most was £100. Would the top end Air cooler still beat then top end AIO cooler in that price range?
Performance on those two particular pieces would be nearly the same, but the the Noctua would be significantly quieter doing it.

And.....there are plenty of other air coolers out there that you could say the same about. Many of which may appeal to you more on the aesthetic side.


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H100X is old and has 40dBa fans and an old Gen4 Asetek pump (new AIOs are Gen6). Go with the NH-U12A.

The only Corsair AIOs you should be looking at is the H100i Pro, H115i Pro, or H150i Pro.
Has there ever been a shred of evidence showing that the newer gen pumps have any performance advantage? Or any advantage at all? We have seen Asetek gen changes that were nothing more than a change to cut production costs, so.....

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If it's a Ryzen 5 3600 then it's an utter waste of money to buy a £90 NH-U12A or a Corsair 240mm AIO.

There's $50 coolers that will cool it more than fine that have been shown to handle prior gen Ryzen 7 chips, such as Scythe's Mugen 5 (6 heatpipes) , Thermalright ARO-M14G (also 6 heatpipes) and is equal to Macho Rev B, Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power (6 x 8mm heatpipes), etc. That's not even including within Noctua's own lineup, since the NH-U14S (6 heatpipes) cools within a degree or two for low TDP chips (<150W).

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What you need to be looking at is: heatpipes, heatpipe contact (direct touch loses some capability since the heatpipe has part of it removed and flattened), fin area , heatsink mass (sans fans), and fan quality.


The Freezer 34 comes with Arctic's new fans but at the end of the day it's still a 4 x6mm direct contact heatpipe cooler. What you want is as many heatpipes that will fit over the Ryzen IHS (6x6mm = 36mm while the IHS is 37mmx37mm). If the 4x6mm heatpipes are concentrated at the middle they probably won't help the chiplets, especially for direct contact designs that don't have a full baseplate.

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This pretty much sums it up. Then you can add in the fact that air coolers are far more reliable and never leak or have a tube burst.
I had a Corsair AIO and had zero problems from it at all. Just because they can break - doesnt mean they do. Same could be said for Air coolers. ANything can break. Freezer 34 eSports Duo Arctic is one that i have been interested in. Doesnt look too huge, isnt really ugly, nice colour scheme as well. Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler doesnt look too bad, nice colour. I wonder if it would need fans on the outside as well as one on the inner part as well? Looks like it can go fan / Metal / Fan / Metal / Fan. The issue i also have is how well they would fit, where as a AIO would be an easy one to fit into it and not have to worry about the fans touching RAM slots or anything else
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I had a Corsair AIO and had zero problems from it at all. Just because they can break - doesnt mean they do. Same could be said for Air coolers. ANything can break. Freezer 34 eSports Duo Arctic is one that i have been interested in. Doesnt look too huge, isnt really ugly, nice colour scheme as well. Dark Rock Pro 4 CPU Cooler doesnt look too bad, nice colour. I wonder if it would need fans on the outside as well as one on the inner part as well? Looks like it can go fan / Metal / Fan / Metal / Fan. The issue i also have is how well they would fit, where as a AIO would be an easy one to fit into it and not have to worry about the fans touching RAM slots or anything else
Not to mention Corsair has excellent customer service and a 5 year warranty on there aio, my 3600 on a 115i is idling around 27c and gaming around 50c with nice and quiet noctua fans. I do not miss having those small block v8s attached to my cpu. My next move will be to a full loop when I replace my 1080ti but until then Im happy with my aio with the fan upgrades of coarse. The corsair fans are dog ****

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