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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 08-25-2019, 07:46 AM
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It's not the "less airflow the better", just that NoFan needs it less. Also it benefits less from more airflow.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Smanci View Post
Case ventilation naturally affects both kinds of coolers but has more obvious effect on regular towers with more dense fin spacing. Relative to those heatsinks, CR80 does the better the less active ventilation there is. Effective convection occurs also regardless of orientation.
Based on what you think or based on actual data you can post here or at least post links to? Just because you think something does not make it fact.
Effective convection yes, but all air coolers need some airflow. Reasoning is simple logic; coolers radiate heat from cooler to air, and if that air does not move away from cooler to allow more cool air to reach cooler the air heats up .. meaning that hotter air does not absorb as much and eventually no more heat at all.

This all means there has to be airflow and if no fans are being used then it has to be the result of warmed / expanded / less dense air rising away from cooler allowing cool air to flow in and take it's place.

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if you wanted passive cooling raijinek tisis is much than enough and probably as good as high end cpu coolers when using fans
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Case ventilation naturally affects both kinds of coolers but has more obvious effect on regular towers with more dense fin spacing. Relative to those heatsinks, CR80 does the better the less active ventilation there is. Effective convection occurs also regardless of orientation.
I suspect case airflow effects both equally .. assuming both are removing same amount of heat from CPU to transfer into that airflow.

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That’s the first time I’ve heard someone say the less caseflow the better. I haven’t used the cooler, so not too sure what to say about that, other than it seems a bit backwards. I have only seen better results with moving air, like everyone else.
More airflow is only better up to point that air flowing through fins (rods on Nofan) is same temp as room. Any faster airflow is wasted.
But keep in mind faster airflow tends to also be more turbulent, and more turbulent airflow tends to mix cool intake with heated air in the case raising it's temp and thereby supplying warmer air to cooler .. and warmer air means warmer component because numer of degrees warmer the air is into cooler is same number of degrees hotter component will be.

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Computex 2007 Thermalright HSC-300, HSC-500 and HSC-700 (HTPC) and HSC-100 midi-tower case passive case (side-panels and top are huge arrays of aluminium fins)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ramzinho View Post
@Skylinestar what are the odds this gets posted literally a day after you start the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqs0S-Djfg
He should actually wait for the release of the 65w version of the 3900x series (I certainly am).

Kind of ignorant putting in an over specified CPU on a cooler that actually needs 65w and below, for effective cooling.

Did you see all the dust on his old Asus board, makes me want to hit it with a Dyson (several times) .

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Quote: Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post
Computex 2007 Thermalright HSC-300, HSC-500 and HSC-700 (HTPC) and HSC-100 midi-tower case passive case (side-panels and top are huge arrays of aluminium fins)

https://www.legitreviews.com/compute...coverage_520/6

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-26...ling-case.html
I remember those! I Thermalright's owner and I had an extened emailed discussion before/during their development. We had many interesting conversations about cooling.
Zalman TNN 500AF is one that actually made it into production and sales.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Ramzinho View Post
@Skylinestar what are the odds this gets posted literally a day after you start the thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWqs0S-Djfg
Sorry, but I hate video reviews. I tried to skim through it for the good stuff .. didn't see any. Lots of babble and very little actual data.

Quote: Originally Posted by Elrick View Post
He should actually wait for the release of the 65w version of the 3900x series (I certainly am).

Kind of ignorant putting in an over specified CPU on a cooler that actually needs 65w and below, for effective cooling.

Did you see all the dust on his old Asus board, makes me want to hit it with a Dyson (several times) .
Indeed, or use a current low wattage CPU.

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Cooler is neat and all but my real interest is what is the deal with the nail polish "grease"? Is that bottle mostly empty is or is it really that transparent?

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I'd still hack a giant fan on to it.

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