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General Ryzen HSF

Didn't find anything after a few searches so.... I have a Ryzen 2600 and need a better, aftermarket HSF b/c I want more quiet. But will also use this on other systems in the future. So kinda investing. Looking for something that isn't for high OC's. Prefer squat, like 155mm tall?, preferably not real heavy so maybe 550 - 650 g? Can switch out fan(s), don't care about RGB & I'm thinking 150W or so would do. But those aren't must haves. Oh, prefer 4 or 5 pipes. Sticking w/air.

So far easiest AM4 mounting seems to favor Scythe and Arctic. Any other brands that are easy for Ryzen? Caveat: I've never dealt w/a tower before. Will be switching cases therefore complex = not good. Has to be able to mount east-west so Pure Rock slim and CM hyper 212 are out. If we're getting up around $55+ I'd rather wait for deals to pop up.

AFAIK the other be quiets can orient the normal way.


A few I've researched include:

Gammaxx 400 - pros and cons, great value but can these handle a good OC on an 8 core?
Arctic Freezer 33 / 34 eSports (skip the duos). For these I've read great reviews as well as a vy negative review (hardforum) saying junk & responses kept wondering if they had a dud. What's the consensus?
be quiet Pure Rock - ?
Reeven Hans - some reviews say beats a Cryorig H7, others not impressed with it. Today at $29 off amazon (using Prime) but may be underwhelming on more powerful chips.

Others:

CM Hyper T4??
Enermax ETS-T40F?
Raijintek Leto?

Out of all of these some supposed to out-class a Cryorig H5. An H7 is getting heavy but I'm not looking to invest that much, and the big be quiets are also pricey. Kinda stuck.

Basically I'm thinking people here would know the wheat from the chafe.





Thanks in advance for any input,

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Why the weight limit?
2600 is quite easy to cool but 8 core needs some better cooler. Rule of thumb in cpu coolers is, get the best you can.

h5, dr4, hyper 212 are not good coolers. The are good for cooling i5 with 4/6 cores but i7 or ryzen 6/8+ cores need better radiators.
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Didn't find anything after a few searches so.... I have a Ryzen 2600 and need a better, aftermarket HSF b/c I want more quiet. But will also use this on other systems in the future. So kinda investing. Looking for something that isn't for high OC's. Prefer squat, like 155mm tall?, preferably not real heavy so maybe 550 - 650 g? Can switch out fan(s), don't care about RGB & I'm thinking 150W or so would do. But those aren't must haves. Oh, prefer 4 or 5 pipes. Sticking w/air.

So far easiest AM4 mounting seems to favor Scythe and Arctic. Any other brands that are easy for Ryzen? Caveat: I've never dealt w/a tower before. Will be switching cases therefore complex = not good. Has to be able to mount east-west so Pure Rock slim and CM hyper 212 are out. If we're getting up around $55+ I'd rather wait for deals to pop up.

AFAIK the other be quiets can orient the normal way.

A few I've researched include:

Gammaxx 400 - pros and cons, great value but can these handle a good OC on an 8 core?
Arctic Freezer 33 / 34 eSports (skip the duos). For these I've read great reviews as well as a vy negative review (hardforum) saying junk & responses kept wondering if they had a dud. What's the consensus?
be quiet Pure Rock - ?
Reeven Hans - some reviews say beats a Cryorig H7, others not impressed with it. Today at $29 off amazon (using Prime) but may be underwhelming on more powerful chips.

Others:

CM Hyper T4??
Enermax ETS-T40F?
Raijintek Leto?

Out of all of these some supposed to out-class a Cryorig H5. An H7 is getting heavy but I'm not looking to invest that much, and the big be quiets are also pricey. Kinda stuck.

Basically I'm thinking people here would know the wheat from the chafe.

Thanks in advance for any input,

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Can you get Thermalright where you are?

What is your budget?
Could you post links to a few sites you can buy from?

One of the best short coolers is Megun 5. It is offset for better RAM clearance.

Personally I prefer coolers with 140mm fan/s and a little bigger than what you are looking at. Cooler wieght is not a problem. Bigger cooler with more heatpipes cool better and quieter than smaller coolers.

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Apologies. My TP_Link powerline adapters are going flunky. I had to make a cable. Weight isn't super important but I'd prefer less than 700g even though mobos are reinforced nowadays. Huh, the Dark Rock 4's not well thought of. Well the H5 & H7 are way overpriced IMO.

doyll if you mean the silent contac 12, it's on my list, along w/the gammaxx 400. Bang for the buck. Budget is ~$55 tops. I can buy from any online retailer in the States. I live in FL. I'm shying away from the tall coolers b/c I'm downsizing my case and will be limited. But will get better cooling vs. a horizontal cooler. I have seen a few 5 pipe coolers that go on sale.

The Arctic eSport One seems to have positive and negative reviews but personal reviews say great temps (one was ryzen 2600 at 3.8, 1.2V which is about where I'd stop on this chip).
Conflicted about that cooler although attachment seems dead simple.

What I'd like is an all rounder for future build. I like the Alpenföhn Brocken ECO Advanced but it's not avail in N. America AFAIK. Real winner although it looks a bit unusual. Squat, not heavy, not $$ but does a remarkable job. Must be the fan CFM or something.


Well, thanks for the input.
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Best $50 cooler on the market is Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power, but it is 171mm tall and 155mm wide so won't fit in all cases.

No idea what you mean about 'silent contact 12'. If you are referring to Thermaltake, they are a company I will never use .. and I'm one of many who won't use anything by that company. Nan's Gaming Gear sell Thermalright on Amazon.com

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Found 3 good air cooler on 50$ (amazon): Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power, Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 and Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B.

All of them are available were I live at the same price, so won't be hard to get them anywhere else.

Also there's 1 liquid cooler from EVGA, EVGA CLC 120mm, 54$ tho.

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Found 3 good air cooler on 50$ (amazon): Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power, Noctua NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 and Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B.


All of them are available were I live at the same price, so won't be hard to get them anywhere else.

Also there's 1 liquid cooler from EVGA, EVGA CLC 120mm, 54$ tho.
I don't think NH-L9x65 is as good Mugen 5 which is not as good as TRUE Spirit 140 Power.

TS140P with 6x 8mm heatpipes can move much more heat than Mugen 5's 6x 6mm heatpipes and NH-L9x65 SE-AM4 is a flat cooler with only 4x 6mm heatpipes would be lucky to cool half as good as Mugen 5.

8mm heatpipe has 25.12mm circumference for wicking area on inside of heatpipe and fin contact area on outside and 50.24sq mm area for vapor movement from base to fins.

6mm heatpipe has 18.84mm circumerence and 28.26sq mm area.

cross sectional & volume area comparison
8mm heatpipe . 6mm heatpipe
25.12mm cir . . . 18.84mm . . . 8mm has 1.33% more surface area (wick & fin contact area)
50.24sq mm . . . 28.26sqmm .. 8mm has 1.78% more volume area (vapor flow area)

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Tbh I'd get the spirit too, but also the AIO is quite interesting.

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Tbh I'd get the spirit too, but also the AIO is quite interesting.
It being interesting worth paying more money for AIO (99% are CLC) that won't cool any better if as good, will likely make more noise and won't last as long? Air coolers last forever. I'm using IFX-14 (basicly same as orginal Silver Arrow) I got in 2007 on one of my system. I got new mount and have changed fans, but not because fans failed but several years ago I wanted black/white fans. It still cools as well as it did when I got it. No CLC or AIO will be functioning that long, problably only about have that long. Also if a CLC dies you have no cooling so no computer to use until cooler is replaced. With air cooling even if fan dies it still cools .. and any fan can be held onto cooler with rubber bands until new fan arrives.

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I have an arctic liquid freezer 120 since 2015, still working fine, but yeah, a good aircooler can last forever

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