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post #1 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 03:33 AM - Thread Starter
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Air cooling vs water cooling

I need a better cpu cooler than my stock one. AM4 compatible (Ryzen 5 2600x, Corsair 275r case, decently low profile RAM).

I've been doing research and I can't decide for the life of me which way too go. The only air coolers anyone every suggests highly are Noctua. Sounds great, but I hate the beige and kind of worry about sag on the Mobo. Water cooling looks cool, but I am worried about messing something up and getting my rig wet. The airflow in my case isn't top notch, and I have a blower GPU, if that would matter one way or another.fedloan irs.gov easybib


What are my best options for $100 or less (prefer less)

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post #2 of 39 (permalink) Old 11-06-2019, 03:41 AM
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No need to worry about sag at all, if you want Noctuas performance equivalent then go for Raijintek Tisis. You also have a freshly released Arctic Liquid Freezer II that got very nice results from two reviews that exists as to date.

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You can buy black Noctua coolers now but the Thermalright True Spirit 140 Power is just as good and way cheaper than the Noctua coolers but its 170mm tall it might not fit in your case
There is room for a 170mm cooler so it might be able to fit or it might not since there is so little space left

As for motherboard sag thats not a thing if its screwed properly in place
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I need a better cpu cooler than my stock one. AM4 compatible (Ryzen 5 2600x, Corsair 275r case, decently low profile RAM).

I've been doing research and I can't decide for the life of me which way too go. The only air coolers anyone every suggests highly are Noctua. Sounds great, but I hate the beige and kind of worry about sag on the Mobo. Water cooling looks cool, but I am worried about messing something up and getting my rig wet. The airflow in my case isn't top notch, and I have a blower GPU, if that would matter one way or another.

What are my best options for $100 or less (prefer less)
Corsair says 750R has 170mm CPU clearance and every case I've ever check had a few more mm than spec said. This means case will support TRUE Spirit 140 Power will fit case. All AMD motherboards I've checked have enough room toward PCIe sockets for TS140P while some don't have quite enough for fan on front, but it's not a problem for fan on back of cooler. TRUE Spirit 140 Power costs about $50, leaving you plenty of money for better case fans if needed.
Motherboard sag is not a problem with even the heaviest CPU coolers.

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Air cooling is hands down the best for the money. The limitation is, your surface area (ie cooling capacity) is limited by the weight / size of the cooler. You can dynamically increase 'surface area' of the air over the cooler with more air flow (poor noise to performance ratio).

Watercooling can increase surface area as far as the case can support radiator mounts (unless you choose to mount radiators outside the case) and can increase 'surface area' of the liquid over the CPU block through increased flow rate. Pump noise is an issue depending on what pump you use). Unfortunately, you rapidly reach a point of limited return for your $$$. The real advantage is the noise to performance ratio.

AIO's generally don't cool as well as a good air cooler mostly because they suffer from poor flow rate.

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Sounds great, but I hate the beige and kind of worry about sag on the Mobo.
MB sag? Is it 2002 and we are back to using paper MBs?

Air cooling trumps CLCs every time. Similar cooling, lower noise, lower price, better longevity and no risk.

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Quote: Originally Posted by NuzakFarnas View Post
Sounds great, but I hate the beige and kind of worry about sag on the Mobo.
MB sag? Is it 2002 and we are back to using paper MBs?

Air cooling trumps CLCs every time. Similar cooling, lower noise, lower price, better longevity and no risk.
Compared to my R3F my P8Z77V is pretty thin.. and a bit bendy, though not when it’s mounted. The pcb on my 980 classy is also a few layers thicker than the pcb on my gtx 580 matrix platinum, that card has some saggage.

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Hi,
If you don't feel good about the awkward size of large air coolers you can always rig a hanger from the ceiling of the case.
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AIO's generally don't cool as well as a good air cooler mostly because they suffer from poor flow rate.
sorry but that just isn't true.
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sorry but that just isn't true.
A very compelling argument. You have me convinced.

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