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Choosing a heatsink, Ryzen, MicroATX.

Hello,

I'm getting parts together for an upgrade and would like some advice on CPU coolers as I can't decide what to get! Here are the specs:

Ryzen 5 3600x
Asrock X570m Pro4 MicroATX
32Gb (4 x 8Gb) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 C15
Powercoler Radeon RX580 Red Dragon V2
Fractal Design Node 804

The memory is 32.5mm tall.
The graphics card has a backplate.
The case specs list a max cooler height of 160mm.

I have two questions really. Firstly, I've been looking at various coolers but using MicroATX I'm not sure what will actually fit without hitting my graphics card or memory.

Secondly, I can't decide if it's worth getting a top tier cooler or not (if they fit). I've read conflicting reports of worse than expected results on Ryzen 3000 with top coolers, perhaps due to coolers meant for Intel with convex bases not matching the Ryzen heatspreader. Also, some report getting really good results on cheaper direct heatpipe coolers with flat bases. There doesn't seem to be many good tests on Ryzen 3000 to prove this one way or the other, which is leaving me unsure if I should spend the extra on top tier or if mid-range options are almost as good.

I would of course like something cooler and quieter than the stock heatsink (not difficult i know), but also something with a bit of headroom, as I could see getting a cheap second hand 8 or 12 core 3xxx or 4xxx in a couple of years and would want to keep the same cooler.

Thanks for any advice!
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Quote: Originally Posted by f300 View Post
Hello,

I'm getting parts together for an upgrade and would like some advice on CPU coolers as I can't decide what to get! Here are the specs:

Ryzen 5 3600x
Asrock X570m Pro4 MicroATX
32Gb (4 x 8Gb) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 C15
Powercoler Radeon RX580 Red Dragon V2
Fractal Design Node 804

The memory is 32.5mm tall.
The graphics card has a backplate.
The case specs list a max cooler height of 160mm.

I have two questions really. Firstly, I've been looking at various coolers but using MicroATX I'm not sure what will actually fit without hitting my graphics card or memory.

Secondly, I can't decide if it's worth getting a top tier cooler or not (if they fit). I've read conflicting reports of worse than expected results on Ryzen 3000 with top coolers, perhaps due to coolers meant for Intel with convex bases not matching the Ryzen heatspreader. Also, some report getting really good results on cheaper direct heatpipe coolers with flat bases. There doesn't seem to be many good tests on Ryzen 3000 to prove this one way or the other, which is leaving me unsure if I should spend the extra on top tier or if mid-range options are almost as good.

I would of course like something cooler and quieter than the stock heatsink (not difficult i know), but also something with a bit of headroom, as I could see getting a cheap second hand 8 or 12 core 3xxx or 4xxx in a couple of years and would want to keep the same cooler.

Thanks for any advice!
There's plenty of space between the socket and GPU, but your choice of going with 4 ram sticks is unfortunately going to limit your choices a bit, as the X570M Pro doesn't have much space between the socket and ram.

But here are some decent choices that will fit

140mm class coolers:
  • Thermalright Silver Arrow T8
  • Noctua NH-D15S
  • Cryorig H5 Ultimate

120mm class coolers:
  • Scythe Fuma 2
  • Noctua NH-U12A
  • Scythe Mugen 5

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Quote: Originally Posted by f300 View Post
Hello,

I'm getting parts together for an upgrade and would like some advice on CPU coolers as I can't decide what to get! Here are the specs:

Ryzen 5 3600x
Asrock X570m Pro4 MicroATX
32Gb (4 x 8Gb) Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 3000 C15
Powercoler Radeon RX580 Red Dragon V2
Fractal Design Node 804

The memory is 32.5mm tall.
The graphics card has a backplate.
The case specs list a max cooler height of 160mm.

I have two questions really. Firstly, I've been looking at various coolers but using MicroATX I'm not sure what will actually fit without hitting my graphics card or memory.

Secondly, I can't decide if it's worth getting a top tier cooler or not (if they fit). I've read conflicting reports of worse than expected results on Ryzen 3000 with top coolers, perhaps due to coolers meant for Intel with convex bases not matching the Ryzen heatspreader. Also, some report getting really good results on cheaper direct heatpipe coolers with flat bases. There doesn't seem to be many good tests on Ryzen 3000 to prove this one way or the other, which is leaving me unsure if I should spend the extra on top tier or if mid-range options are almost as good.

I would of course like something cooler and quieter than the stock heatsink (not difficult i know), but also something with a bit of headroom, as I could see getting a cheap second hand 8 or 12 core 3xxx or 4xxx in a couple of years and would want to keep the same cooler.

Thanks for any advice!
With 160mm there are quite a few coolers that will fit. What online sites can you buy from? Makes it easier to suggest what you can get.
I would expect most if not all problems are more airflow related than cooler. I always prefer bigger better quality coolers. Because they have lots of reserve cooling ability they cool better and quieter. Just don't forget to setup case airflow so coolers get air near room temp, not 10-20c, even 30c higher when GPU is working hard gaming.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Gilles3000 View Post
There's plenty of space between the socket and GPU, but your choice of going with 4 ram sticks is unfortunately going to limit your choices a bit, as the X570M Pro doesn't have much space between the socket and ram.

But here are some decent choices that will fit

140mm class coolers:
  • Thermalright Silver Arrow T8
  • Noctua NH-D15S
  • Cryorig H5 Ultimate

120mm class coolers:
  • Scythe Fuma 2
  • Noctua NH-U12A
  • Scythe Mugen 5
Thanks, I'll take a look at those!

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With 160mm there are quite a few coolers that will fit. What online sites can you buy from? Makes it easier to suggest what you can get.
I would expect most if not all problems are more airflow related than cooler. I always prefer bigger better quality coolers. Because they have lots of reserve cooling ability they cool better and quieter. Just don't forget to setup case airflow so coolers get air near room temp, not 10-20c, even 30c higher when GPU is working hard gaming.
I was planning to replace the stock Fractal fans with a Arctic P12 PWM value pack.

I'm in the UK so I can buy from many places, Amazon, Scan, OcUK, Ebuyer, CCLOnline, etc, and anywhere listed on https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/products...t=price&page=1

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Hmm..SilenX Effizzio 140?

Argh, trying to remember the one..they make PSUs too.
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