Originally Posted by Baerny
Looking for new cooler for am4, more powerfull one that thermalright macho 120 SBM. <-- currently using and i'll retire it to my second pc.
I've been considering Scythe fuma 2 and ninja 4. Which one would win if these two fought it out?
They are priced quite similarly considering ninja 4 needs additional purchase of 4eur am4 kit.
Thermalright frost spirit is also intersting at similar price but the availability still poor in EU.
Open to other recommendations too, but no taller than 161mm (pref. price under 60eur).
The top air coolers were mentioned in the previous thread
you posted in, namely the D14/D15, Cryrig R1 Ultimate, Thermalright LGMRT, Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, Phanteks TC14PE, Thermalright TRUE Spirit 140 Power, Silver Arrow, Silver Arrow SB-E, Silver Arrow IB, be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, DeepCool Assassin II and Assassin III, Scythe Fuma II.
As doyll stated there, the top air coolers perform similarly. So if you're on a budget, I'd get whichever is cheapest. If you're not on a budget, Noctua's D15 shines in it's simple mounting system, excellent quality and customer service.
FWIW I'm very happy with my Ninja 4. Performance is amazing and at $50 it was much less than the D15 (as a bonus, it's beautiful as well). The things I don't like: the mounting system is more difficult than it needs to be (which is compounded by poor instructions), and it doesn't support 140mm fans (I wound up tieing a 140mm to it with wire).
Ed Hume's review
had it performing much better than a D15, esp. with low speed fans. His testing methodology seems impeccable (unlike most reviewers), but the chip he used has fairly low power consumption, so take from that what you will. FWIW the Ninja 4 keeps my (non-AVX capable) W3680 very cool at low fan speeds. Prime 95 testing at 4GHz
200w CPU power use (190w limit will TDP/power throttle), in a 26C room (it was July), peaked at ~65C
, absolute max temp when gaming was a mere ~55C. My daily driver overclock of 3.9GHz at 150w CPU power use (140w limit will TDP/power throttle) peaked at ~60C Prime load during a ~30 hour test, 50C max during actual use. Fans (San Ace 140x38mm) were set at starting voltage and left there, likely 800-1000RPM (no tach wire). Hardly scientific, but maybe my results will be useful.
The Fuma seems to perform even better, the Fuma 2 better still. Yet, if I understand Ed Hume's review
correctly, the Fuma's excellent performance is partly due to a more convex base, which can make an impression on the IHS over time. I'm assuming the Fuma 2 is highly convex as well. After which, if you mount a flat cooler, it will not perform as well due to poor contact. If you don't plan on ever using a different heatsink on your chip, it's a non issue, but something to consider.