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i7 5820k on a Noctua NH-D15

Just wondering if anyone has this uhm dated setup and what are your idel/max temps with a 1ghz OC on the CPU.

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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old 04-22-2020, 11:49 PM
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I used to run a 5820k at 4.1Ghz with 1.2V and 3.6Ghz uncore that is cooled by NH-D14
Prime95 with AVX would go to about 80 degrees on core temp.

Though I live in warm state where room temperature would usually go above 28 and I didn't overclock my chip too much.
D15 should perform better than this but I'm not sure if air coolers would be able to handle this at 4.6Ghz.
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Average 5820k would need about 1.35v for 4.6ghz, tough to achieve on air with good temps. You would probably need some luck in silicon lottery to achieve that, but 4.4-4.5ghz is almost assured. Then again, with little luck, 4.6ghz is still possible, probably within 1.25-1.3v range, if your chip can manage that
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What cooler is used is only one small part of cooling equation. How well case flows air to cooler is just as important as what cooler is used. If cooler is not supplied air at or near room temp, but is trying to cool using air pre-heated by GPU and CPU heated exhaust air then things will run hot. Every degree warmer the air into cooler is translates into same degrees hotter CPU (& GPU) will be at same load and fan speed. Most .. really all cases .. have horrible to maybe barely capable airflow out of the box. For a system with 1-2x 120/140mm fan/s on CPU cooler and 2-3x 80-90mm fans on GPU cooler case needs 2-3x 140mm or 4-5x 120mm high pressure rated intake fans and equal or more exhaust vent area so case flow at least as much and ideally a little more airflow than component cooler fans use.

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Turbo on a 5820k is 3.8 so you want to know what would happen at 3.9 on a D15 ?
This is not a high clock if so just leave core voltage on auto and set all core 3.9 and see

3.9 is actually my everyday clock on 5930k at 1.16v
Core difference is 40-45c on a custom loop you should at least be around there if not better

Do not use P95
Use blender opendata instead download all the render files and run the full/ long test cpu only
It might take a while 1.5 hours likely
You can also just do the short test in about 30 minutes

https://opendata.blender.org/

But yes for 4.5 all core 1.3v is needed usually.

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I have a setup with an NH-D15S on a pretty good 5820K sample.

With 25C ambients, good case airflow, and a pair of TY-143 fans allowed to ramp all the way to 2500rpm, 4.2GHz core is about the practical thermal limit at 1.2v core and ring (using 4GHz uncore), if I want unconditional stability (meaning it can run AVX2 LINPACK, Prime95, and OCCT without throttling or errors). Temperature in recent versions of LINPACK or 128k in-place FFTs in Prime will approach 90C on this setup. I'm also using the most recent HW-E microcode, which requires a bit more vcore for the same clocks than pre-mitigation microcodes.

With more forgiving loads, I can go a few hundred MHz higher with lower temperatures, but since I consider stability paramount, I haven't really bothered to find the limits of this system under such conditions.

There is no way I'd consider a couple hour long render in Blender a useful stress test on for anything more than a pure benching or gaming build.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Blameless View Post
I have a setup with an NH-D15S on a pretty good 5820K sample.

With 25C ambients, good case airflow, and a pair of TY-143 fans allowed to ramp all the way to 2500rpm, 4.2GHz core is about the practical thermal limit at 1.2v core and ring (using 4GHz uncore), if I want unconditional stability (meaning it can run AVX2 LINPACK, Prime95, and OCCT without throttling or errors). Temperature in recent versions of LINPACK or 128k in-place FFTs in Prime will approach 90C on this setup. I'm also using the most recent HW-E microcode, which requires a bit more vcore for the same clocks than pre-mitigation microcodes.

With more forgiving loads, I can go a few hundred MHz higher with lower temperatures, but since I consider stability paramount, I haven't really bothered to find the limits of this system under such conditions.

There is no way I'd consider a couple hour long render in Blender a useful stress test on for anything more than a pure benching or gaming build.
Hi,
I'd never recommend using P95 on hedt lol so we're even

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Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
I'd never recommend using P95 on hedt lol so we're even
The harder the test is to pass, the better it is as a stress test.

I usually start with LINPACK to get an idea if the cooling solution can handle a worst case load, then go on to OCCT large data set, as it tends to fail sooner than just about anything. After that I work my way down through the synthetics and then mop up with some real-world testing to make sure there aren't any bizarre outliers.

Trying to validate a part with just real-world loads is usually going to mean problems down the line as longer jobs can easily reveal issues as test run missed, or other real-world applications can turn out to be more stressful than the tests employed. Over the long run it's a recipe for disaster if any important work is done, or data stored or manipulated, on such a system.

Certainly, some uses can get by with sloppy validation, but recommending a decidedly less than worst case load without knowing that the system won't be used for something non-trivial strikes me as reckless. I suppose one could say the same thing about overclocking, but I'd trust a properly validated overclocked setup over an untested bone stock setup any day.

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What ever blender is a realistic workload p95 is not.

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What ever blender is a realistic workload p95 is not.
That's the point.

You cannot properly stress test, proof, or validate, with only realistic workloads.

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