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post #1 of 50 (permalink) Old 04-29-2020, 09:25 AM - Thread Starter
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Hi first time building a rig, I have bought

Ryzen 3600x
Corsair mp510 480gb
Corsair 460x Rgb case
Corsair 3600 ram
Msi 5700
Tomahawk max motherboard

I’m going to buy a 750w power supply

Will the stock cooler be sufficient? Or should I buy a air cooler or liquid one.

Thanks for your help.
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post #2 of 50 (permalink) Old 04-29-2020, 10:17 AM
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stock cooler obviously fine - aftermarket cooler will be quieter and net 50-75 mhz across the cores. 360 mm AIO if you were going aftermarket in the front

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Full custom loop with multiple radiators and pumps. Go big or go home!

I'd go with whatever Noctua air cooler works best for your case

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post #4 of 50 (permalink) Old 04-29-2020, 10:41 AM
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550W is plenty. 750W is just throwing cooler money out of the window.

A be quiet! Dark Rock 4 like mine or a Noctua U14S/U12A should be more than enough. If you decide to go liquid, take a good look at the Arctic Freezer II 240/280mm.

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PSU's are mostly about does it have all the connections you need and maybe more for later expansion

It's no secrete larger watt psu's have more connection than other lower watt psu's usually price difference is likely less than 20.us difference if that much.

Be-quiet does have some nice coolers and fans but the stock cooler is easy to switch out later if you want too it's not one of those got to do right away things.

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Thanks guys, think I may use the stock for a bit! What monitor should I buy for a rx 5700 graphic card? A 1920 x 1040 or higher? I was going to buy one with a refresh of 144. Also, if I bought a higher quality monitor could I play YouTube videos etc in 4K?
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Quote: Originally Posted by Rhysc View Post
Hi first time building a rig, I have bought

Ryzen 3600x
Corsair mp510 480gb
Corsair 460x Rgb case
Corsair 3600 ram
Msi 5700
Tomahawk max motherboard

I’m going to buy a 750w power supply

Will the stock cooler be sufficient? Or should I buy a air cooler or liquid one.

Thanks for your help.
Corsair 460x has 170mm CPU clearance so even tallest coolers will fit case. Stock case fans are marginal at best. I think they are SP120 RGB fans which have a very low pressure rating of 0.88mm H2O, so higher pressure fans would greatly improve case airflow and cooling. They may look nice but they definitely are not good case fans. I would remove all PCIe back slot covers to increase rear vent area around GPU thus improving front to back airflow and lowing temps and noise levels .. and if there are any openings in front fan mounting panel not covered by fans, block them so air they push into case has to move on back and not leak back in front of fans.

Assuming your "Corsair 3600" RAM is RGB it stands a super 51mm tall so many tower coolers can't have a front fan .

As others have said, you don't need 750w PSU.

Have to guess again that your mobo is MSI B450 Tomahawk?? if so, it has about 50.5mm center CPU to near side of RAM socket and about 90mm center CPU to near side of x16 PCIe socket. Plenty of room for wide coolers but one that is backset to clear RAM is probably best.
Stock cooler will work but will be noisier and run hotter than even a small tower cooler.

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Nothing wrong with 750W if that's what you want. I run a 650W with a 3900x and a 5700XT
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Hi, no I have the low profile ram as I read there is some issues with mounting as the rgb is so tall so it stops you from mounting top. I’m just unsure on power supply, I was going to buy 750 to be safe? I may go for the 650 then, I just didn’t want to be struggling for power. I’m not really sure on most of the bottom as it’s my first build. I understand the air flow concept, should I fit a front radiator?
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Hi, no I have the low profile ram as I read there is some issues with mounting as the rgb is so tall so it stops you from mounting top. I’m just unsure on power supply, I was going to buy 750 to be safe? I may go for the 650 then, I just didn’t want to be struggling for power. I’m not really sure on most of the bottom as it’s my first build. I understand the air flow concept, should I fit a front radiator?
If you use air cooler you won't be fitting any radiators.

CLCs (almost all AIOs are CLCs) generally cost more, make more noise, don't cool any better, don't last as long (pumps wear and die) and when pump goes (cause of 99.9% of failures) you have no cooling until cooler is changed. Next biggest causes of CLC failure is low coolant and coolant turning to slug. With air cooler only thing to fail is fan/s which last many years. Even if fan does fail cooler is still cooling and any fan can be held on with rubber bands to keep system cool until you get new fan.
What cooler to get depends on what cooler are availabe to you and their prices. In USA TRUE Spirit 140 Power can be had for $30 and it cools as well or better and as quietly as any air cooler made. Can you give us some links to sites you can buy from? Then we can look at coolers availablity and prices to give you best choices you can get.

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@ 4.0GHz =R1 Ultimate w/2x TY-143 fans =Dominator GT 6x2GB =Rampage III Extreme =ASUS GTX580 DirectCU II =TX850 =Enthoo Primo w/ custom castor base

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