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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 04-30-2020, 07:04 PM - Thread Starter
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Why doesn't the Scythe Ninja 5 get more love here?

Been looking for an air cooler for my server build. Honestly, I could get by with my Hyper 212, but I like to waste money. Anyways, in my search the Scythe Ninja 5 popped up, and it seems to be absolutely killing in terms of noiseerformance. It does seem not perform as well in overclock situations, but that seems to be due to the low fan speed as they aren't being performed with reference fans.

I see LGMRT is extremely popular, and it definitely tested well, but the Scythe Ninja 5 is cheaper and quieter than all of the other towers. Is the Ninja's worse OC performance the main reason it doesn't get recommended as much as the LGMRT?
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The only reason to get the Ninja IMO is if you like its aesthetic since the Fuma 2 is the same price and performs better even when both run the same fans.

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Quote: Originally Posted by D-EJ915 View Post
The only reason to get the Ninja IMO is if you like its aesthetic since the Fuma 2 is the same price and performs better even when both run the same fans.
Huh weird, last time I looked the Ninja 5 outperformed the Fuma 2 in terms of noise. Ponchato on YT has the Ninja 5 edging out the Fuma 2 though by 2.5 degrees. Tweaktown shows them to be quite close and probably not actually distinguishable to the human ear. Anyways, still wondering why the Scythe fans don't get the same love. They perform quite well and are relatively cheap. The $20 between the LGMRT and Ninja/Fuma isn't much, but it's still $20 that could be put towards better RAM or a GPU.
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because we're still salty over the gentle typhoon fall out.
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Because it's inconvenient and it's not better than fuma 2. Even some of the biggest air coolers are more convenient when it comes to clearence and working with them.

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I just swapped my 1800X's cooling from a 480mm custom loop to the Scythe Ninja 5.

It's quiet but worlds away from the loop in cooling ability.

I'm a little disappointed, was hoping to be able to run 4.1 ghz all core , which is why I did the test on the loop at that speed for comparison's sake. I was running 4175 mhz at 1.525+V on the loop for a daily.

The custom loop hadn't been cleaned in 8 years of operation - fluid was fine, but the rad was completely plugged...lol. I'll post a pic later if i get time.
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Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post
I just swapped my 1800X's cooling from a 480mm custom loop to the Scythe Ninja 5.

It's quiet but worlds away from the loop in cooling ability.

I'm a little disappointed, was hoping to be able to run 4.1 ghz all core , which is why I did the test on the loop at that speed for comparison's sake. I was running 4175 mhz at 1.525+V on the loop for a daily.

The custom loop hadn't been cleaned in 8 years of operation - fluid was fine, but the rad was completely plugged...lol. I'll post a pic later if i get time.
What is air temp entering cooler compared to room ambient? Often the reason for high CPU (& GPU) temps is air entering cooler is 5-10c even 15-20c higher than room .. and that translates to that CPU (or GPU) being similar 5-20c hotter. Every degree warmer air enter cooler is same number of degrees hotter component is at same load and fan speed .. it's almost exactly a 1:1 ratio.

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Quote: Originally Posted by cssorkinman View Post
I just swapped my 1800X's cooling from a 480mm custom loop to the Scythe Ninja 5.

It's quiet but worlds away from the loop in cooling ability.

I'm a little disappointed, was hoping to be able to run 4.1 ghz all core , which is why I did the test on the loop at that speed for comparison's sake. I was running 4175 mhz at 1.525+V on the loop for a daily.

The custom loop hadn't been cleaned in 8 years of operation - fluid was fine, but the rad was completely plugged...lol. I'll post a pic later if i get time.
I know this is OCN but is it really worth it 4.4% increase in performance for 20% more wattage? Even if your loop is better at removing the heat from your system. The electricity is still being consumed and heat is still outputted from your workstation.

The chip will likely last longer running at the lower voltage, right?

Also, how much did it cost to build / install that loop vs the air cooler? I'm all for loops but just putting it into perspective

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Quote: Originally Posted by doyll View Post
What is air temp entering cooler compared to room ambient? Often the reason for high CPU (& GPU) temps is air entering cooler is 5-10c even 15-20c higher than room .. and that translates to that CPU (or GPU) being similar 5-20c hotter. Every degree warmer air enter cooler is same number of degrees hotter component is at same load and fan speed .. it's almost exactly a 1:1 ratio.
"Case" is a thermaltake P5 - sans the tempered glass intake to radiator and heatsink is pretty much ambient. Room temp would be within a degree or two F depending on Hvac cycling for both setups.

I'm flushing the loop, getting new tubing, some new fittings and going mount everything to the p-5 . Just needed a cooler to get by with while I'm working on the liquid setup.
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